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A deep dive into the debate about Claude Mythos Preview, the model's capabilities, attempts to refute Anthropic's claims, and what it means for the future of AI

Anthropic is not going to release its new most capable model, Claude Mythos, to the public any time soon.

Don't Worry About the Vase Zvi Mowshowitz

Discussion

  • @kimzetter Kim Zetter on x
    So much breathless hyperbole this week about Anthropic's Mythos, no doubt ignited by genius way the company marketed it with elite access and bold unproven claims. @lilyhnewman does good job examining the hype and where it might also prove to be true https://www.wired.com/...
  • @davidsacks David Sacks on x
    A growing number of people are wondering if Anthropic is the AI industry's “boy who cried wolf.” If Mythos-related threats don't materialize, the company will have a serious credibility problem.
  • @jeffreyleefunk Jeffrey Lee Funk on x
    We've been tricked, again. Many of the thousands of bugs and vulnerabilities Mythos found are in older software are impossible to exploit. And the severe zero-day reports rely on just 198 manual reviews https://www.tomshardware.com/ ...
  • @timmarchman Tim Marchman on bluesky
    NEW: Just because the most annoying people alive claim Mythos is a harbinger of the end of days doesn't mean it isn't a big deal; the nature of that big deal, though, isn't necessarily as the hype would have it.  Level-headed @lhn.bsky.social reports:
  • @timkellogg.me Tim Kellogg on bluesky
    this probably exposes my unhinged optimism — but this didn't have to be the case, and is only the case because Anthropic places altruism above profit  —  it's likely that both OpenAI and Google have private models of roughly equal capabilities to Mythos  —  Anthropic doesn't have…
  • @mims Christopher Mims on bluesky
    “So, basically, if Anthropic was not a US company, we'd be facing zero days with multiple unknown points of attack on virtually all of our systems to an adversary who developed this capacity before us.”  [embedded post]
  • @shashj Shashank Joshi on bluesky
    “With Claude Mythos being used to patch vulnerabilities in every major operating system and browser, and by all the major tech companies, the world's entire core tech stack is now downstream of Claude.”  —  thezvi.substack.com/p/claude- myt...
  • r/blackhat r on reddit
    Anthropic's Mythos Will Force a Cybersecurity Reckoning—Just Not the One You Think
  • r/pwnhub r on reddit
    Anthropic's Mythos Will Force a Cybersecurity Reckoning—Just Not the One You Think
  • @eliebakouch Elie on x
    everyone talking about claude mythos like it's the biggest model ever and will be insanely expensive to run, but gpt 5.4 pro is already publicly available and costs significantly more. there are actually 4 benchmarks in common: it's a tie on gpqa, mythos is much better at HLE, [i…
  • @maxcroser Max Roser on x
    Anthropic's new model, Claude Mythos, is so powerful that they're not releasing it. They must have good reasons. They're willing to forgo a lot of revenue. @robertwiblin on what we know so far about how dangerous the current situation is. https://80000hours.org/...
  • @johncrickett John Crickett on x
    Anthropic: Mythos is too good, it'll be dangerous to release it. Also Anthropic: buggy code, only 98.7% uptime. Also Anthropic: Claude Mythos Preview was made available for internal use on February 24... ...and their reliability has gotten worse since 24th February. Can we
  • @kantrowitz Alex Kantrowitz on x
    Molotov cocktail hurled at Altman's house, Indianapolis legislator's house shot up. Both this week. AI opposition getting scary. https://bigtechnology.substack.com/ ...
  • @ric_rtp Ricardo on x
    The journalist who took down Harvey Weinstein just spent 18 months investigating Sam Altman. And what he found out is genuinely insane: The people who built OpenAI went on record saying he can't be trusted with the future of humanity. A Microsoft executive even compared him [vide…
  • @miles_brundage Miles Brundage on x
    Couple thoughts re: the Sam/Molotov cocktail thing and the wider issue of AI-related violence: 1. Most importantly, I'm glad no one got hurt. Besides the basic human perspective of “murder bad,” political violence is always bad, as is techno-political violence or whatever this
  • @linahuaa LinaHua on x
    I would say there's a 20% chance that the molotov cocktail attack on Sam Altman's house was a FALSE FLAG to play victim after all the damning revelations from @RonanFarrow and the mogging from Anthropic on every dimension. Also, whenever Sam is in trouble he's posting his baby [i…
  • @brij Brij Singh on x
    Small banks and credit unions aren't built for this threat model. Most run on 1-2 outsourced cyber teams. That doesn't stand a chance against even high end open source models in adversarial mode.
  • @kanishkanarayan Kanishka Narayan MP on x
    3/ AISI works closely with the @NCSC. We've acted to protect critical national infrastructure and the Cyber Security and Resilience Bill will strengthen protections further, including making data centres CNI for the first time. https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/....
  • @kanishkanarayan Kanishka Narayan MP on x
    2/ Mythos is the most capable model we've ever evaluated for cyber and the first to complete our hardest cyber-range end-to-end. This represents a step up in AI cyber capabilities. We've taken action based on our findings.
  • @kanishkanarayan Kanishka Narayan MP on x
    1/The UK has been a global leader in tracking AI cyber capabilities for 2+ years. Our testing shows accelerating capabilities. The UK's @AISecurityInst most recently tested Anthropic's Mythos model, some reflections🧵 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ ...
  • @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x
    Every single person saying “Anthropic made up mythos,” despite *JP Morgan* and many others being clearly concerned about it, is perfectly fulfilling this prediction. They think “perceiving AI models as highly capable” is an EA perversion intended to attain “regulatory capture.”
  • @senblumenthal Richard Blumenthal on x
    How anyone can doubt the need for AI guardrails is beyond me. The dangers grow more frightening by the day. My bipartisan legislative framework for protection & prevention of harm offers a path forward. https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @asymmetricinfo Megan McArdle on x
    At first glance, the recent news about Anthropic's Mythos model may seem like even more reason to halt AI development. In fact, it's the reason we can't. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
  • @rayminehane Ray Minehane on bluesky
    Anthropic have done the incredible thing of creating a problem.  Selling a solution all while making companies completely dependent on their LLM.  [embedded post]
  • r/democrats r on reddit
    Claude Mythos Is Everyone's Problem
  • r/Foodforthought r on reddit
    Claude Mythos Is Everyone's Problem
  • r/inthenews r on reddit
    Claude Mythos Is Everyone's Problem