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A look at the decadelong feud between Sam Altman and Dario Amodei; sources say Amodei likened Altman's legal fight with Musk to Hitler's fight with Stalin

Personal wounds and power struggles between the leaders of OpenAI and Anthropic are defining how the world encounters the technology

Wall Street Journal Keach Hagey

Discussion

  • @ashleymayer Ashley Mayer on x
    Anthropic is the greatest spite store ever created.
  • @leahlibresco Leah Libresco Sargeant on x
    “Not consistently candid”
  • @kylebrussell Kyle Russell on x
    no human could script this God is jestergooning through the most important people alive
  • @selkis_2028 Ryan Selkis on x
    Jewish AI exec battles are like the Grandmaster Championships of gaslighting.
  • @tekbog @tekbog on x
    had no idea sama has BPD
  • @bigmeaninternet Malcolm Harris on x
    Making this guy the face of the whole tech helps explain why people distrust it so much
  • @aliama @aliama on x
    the most surprising thing about this narrative is that Greg Brockman was the real thorn between Dario and Sam; and yet, I guess it shouldn't be that surprising: Brockman is the one actively aligning with the Trump administration and a16z. Sam gets all the flack though.
  • @ns123abc Nik on x
    Dario Amodei's sister loved stuffed animals so much that her fiancé proposed via a movie of her dolls coming to life Dario wore a panda suit to their wedding Their clique at openai then became “the pandas” [image]
  • @keachhagey @keachhagey on x
    It's never been entirely clear why Dario and the other Anthropic co-founders left OpenAI. I set out to find out. [image]
  • @palmyrpar @palmyrpar on x
    God, Altman is such a fucking weasel.
  • @rahll Reid Southen on x
    Is Sam Altman a Michael Scott or a Dwight Schrute?
  • @chazakieldoremi @chazakieldoremi on x
    This is such a bog standard abuse/gaslighting technique. Back when I was manager at a large art store behaving like this to our employees was literally part of the handbook
  • @keachhagey @keachhagey on x
    The beef goes back to conversations in the SF group house where Dario, Holden and Daniela lived in the early days of OpenAI. Greck Brockman hung out there and got into debates with Dario and Holden about how urgent it was to tell the public about the pace of AI progress. He
  • @keachhagey @keachhagey on x
    Sam Altman called Dario and Daniela into a conference room in 2020 and accused them of plotting against him by encouraging others to write negative feedback against him to the board. It ended in an angry shouting match
  • @megabasedchad @megabasedchad on x
    Sam Altman is going to end up in future DSMs under “Sociopathy”
  • @keachhagey @keachhagey on x
    When Sam took over, he promised Dario that Greg and Ilya would not be in charge. Then Dario got wind of a handshake deal that Sam had made with Greg and Ilya that they could fire him if they thought he was doing a bad job
  • @keachhagey @keachhagey on x
    After Alec Radford made his LLM breakthrough, Greg wanted in on this research direction, but Dario wanted him nowhere near it. After declaring at a staff meeting that Radford didn't want to work with Greg, he got his way.
  • @menhguin Minh Nhat Nguyen on x
    Dario Arc's flashback episode which reveals him to be a sympathetic and misunderstood character seeking revenge on Season's 1 protagonist Sama-Sama
  • @livgorton Liv on x
    this seems like an all round bizarre interaction? [image]
  • @keachhagey @keachhagey on x
    At OpenAI, Dario began to turn against Greg because of the early layoffs that Elon requested. Things got worse after Dario balked at an early fundraising plan that Greg had floated to sell AGI to other countries, including rivals like Russia and China. Dario thought it was
  • @keachhagey @keachhagey on x
    At the end, Dario said he would only stay if he could report directly to the board, and if he didn't have to work with Brockman. Both were nonstarters
  • @katiemiller Katie Miller on x
    Dario has a gross savior complex as this White Knight, where he can sit high in a castle and rain down judgment onto others. He dubbed a $25 million donation by OpenAI President Greg Brockman to a pro-Trump super PAC “evil.”
  • @i_zzzzzz Brooks Otterlake on x
    There is something really funny to me about fighting with a brother and sister at work
  • @lokijulianus @lokijulianus on x
    Sam was probably right and the other exec was just lying when put on the spot.
  • @keachhagey @keachhagey on x
    Dario did not always feel like he got the credit he deserved. After he requested a promotion in late 2019, an email to the board said he would get the same PR treatment as Greg and Ilya and stop denigrating projects he didn't believe in
  • @aakashgupta Aakash Gupta on x
    The person who wrote Sam Altman's biography just published a 13-minute investigation into why his former VP of Research left to start the company that's now eating his lunch. Keach Hagey had more access to OpenAI's internal dynamics than any other journalist. She already
  • @keachhagey @keachhagey on x
    Dario has been ramping up attacks on OpenAI internally lately, comparing the fight between Elon and Sam to the fight between Hitler and Stalin, calling Greg Brockman's donation to a MAGA super PAC “evil,” comparing OpenAI to a cigarette company
  • @keachhagey @keachhagey on x
    Anthropic has built its whole brand - and burned major cash on a Super Bowl ad - on showing how different it is from OpenAI
  • @teortaxestex @teortaxestex on x
    it was then and there that Amodeis developed terminal Sama Fatique
  • @shiraovide Shira Ovide on bluesky
    A useful reminder that humans have feelings, and petty grievances shape the world.  —  www.wsj.com/tech/ai/the-...  [image]
  • r/singularity r on reddit
    Dario Amodei: OpenAI President Brockman's $25 Million Dollar Donation To Pro-Trump Super PAC Is Evil, Also Compares Altman And Elon To Hitler And Stalin