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Dario Amodei says Anthropic plans to fight the DOD's risk designation in court, claims the DOD's letter has a “narrow scope”, and apologizes for his leaked memo

Yesterday (March 4) Anthropic received a letter from the Department of War confirming that we have been designated …

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  • NewsMax.com Jim Thomas on x
    Anthropic CEO Apologizes as Pentagon Acts
  • @apples_jimmy @apples_jimmy on x
    Going to guess an agreement will be done sooner than later from the tone of this ? [image]
  • @morqon Morgan on x
    dario apologises for crashing out [image]
  • @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x
    Anthropic has confirmed what I'd have guessed: the DoW's supply chain risk designation is profoundly narrower than Secretary Hegseth threatened last week.  It applies only to DoW contractors in their direct fulfillment of the military contract, as opposed to requiring contractors…
  • @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x
    Pause to reflect that the Trump Admin has officially taken the harshest regulatory action against a frontier AI company of any U.S. government entity (Colorado's SB 205 is harsher but not in effect), and that Claude is now more strictly regulated by USG than any Chinese AI.
  • @sambiddle.com Sam Biddle on bluesky
    I think one of the most staggering industry shifts in my 16 years as a tech reporter is that it's not become a question of “should our product help the government kill and/or surveil people?” but “to what extent?”  —  www.anthropic.com/news/where- s...
  • @alexpanetta Alex Panetta on bluesky
    Summary: 1) Anthropic still negotiating with Pentagon 2) Supply chain risk designation has arrived via letter; it's narrowly written, affects minimal slice of business 3) Apologizes for angry memo — says he didn't leak it; was written amid anger last Friday www.anthropic.com/news…
  • @timkellogg.me Tim Kellogg on bluesky
    Dario's apology  — They're still working on non-conflicting uses within the DoW  — Some legal analysis implying Hegseth is out of line  — Reaffirms that SCR designation is very narrow scope  —  www.anthropic.com/news/where- s...  [image]
  • @justinhendrix Justin Hendrix on bluesky
    Amodei: “Anthropic will provide our models to the Department of War and national security community, at nominal cost and with continuing support from our engineers, for as long as is necessary to make that transition, and for as long as we are permitted to do so.” www.anthropic.c…
  • @eclecticbrotha1 @eclecticbrotha1 on bluesky
    Paraphrasing Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei: “At first we didn't want to help the United States create autonomous killbots, but then we realized we'd be missing out on all that sweet sweet scratch...”  —  www.anthropic.com/news/where- s...
  • @isolyth.dev @isolyth.dev on bluesky
    Update directly from Dario on Anthropic's situation with the DoD.  They will be taking the DoD to court over the supply chain risk designation.
  • @peark.es George Pearkes on bluesky
    “we do not believe this action is legally sound, and we see no choice but to challenge it in court.”
  • r/ClaudeCode r on reddit
    A statement from Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei
  • r/technology r on reddit
    Anthropic: Where things stand with the Department of War
  • r/ClaudeAI r on reddit
    A statement from Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei
  • r/singularity r on reddit
    Where Anthropic Stands with Department of War
  • r/Anthropic r on reddit
    Where Anthropic Stands with Department of War
  • @kantrowitz Alex Kantrowitz on x
    Might've been that leaked Slack message that pushed it across
  • @jonchu @jonchu on x
    We always root for the idealistic and naive hero in movies. The ones who will fall on their sword for honor. And if the world were a place where they win more often, maybe it'd be a better place. For that alone, I am still an @AnthropicAI and @DarioAmodei supporter and am long.
  • @katrinamanson Katrina Manson on x
    SCOOP: The Pentagon has formally notified Anthropic that it's deemed the artificial intelligence company and its products a risk to the US supply chain, according to a senior defense official. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x
    I'll have no comment to offer on this until I learn more details about the designation. These things can be scoped on different ways.
  • @miles_brundage Miles Brundage on x
    It is both true that Ant made this outcome more likely with the memo and that that doesn't justify the supply chain risk designation whatsoever. Nothing does - it's totally insane. Horrible day for law and order, American AI competitiveness, national security, etc.
  • @willrinehart Will Rinehart on x
    Sure, don't work with Anthropic, cancel their contract. I understand that position. But deeming the company a supply chain risk is just petty.
  • @arozenshtein Alan Rozenshtein on x
    Well so much for the hope that the Pentagon would TACO on this. Presumably Anthropic is going to file a lawsuit ASAP and then the question is if/how quickly it will get an injunction from the courts.
  • @signulll @signulll on x
    this is a tragedy for american innovation & the underlying relationship between public & private institutions.
  • @tszzl Roon on x
    to reiterate: whatever went wrong between amodei & hegseth, whatever rivalry between the labs, this is a massive overreaction and a dark precedent
  • @tszzl Roon on x
    Anthropic is one of my favorite accelerationist recursive self improvement labs. it rocks that they're firing marvelously on all cylinders across all functions to duly serve the technocapital machine at the end of time and the pentagon is slowing them down for stupid reasons
  • @signulll @signulll on x
    i don't think most ppl understand the implication of a supply chain risk designation for an american company.  the implicit cost of all of this potentially has a chilling effect on the entire supply side... only vendors with nothing to lose, or those fully captured will play.  th…
  • @miles_brundage Miles Brundage on x
    I am still hopeful that, per my original prediction, they will prevail in court, but this is just completely unnecessary and is such a black pill re: working with this government that I don't know how you can undo the damage.
  • @thezvi Zvi Mowshowitz on x
    What's done is done so I will be Slaying a Spire on schedule (at https://twitch.tv/... at 2pm EST) but it's driving me nuts that this doesn't give ANY details, not which authority, not what scope, nothing, anyone know anything or do we just wait for the court filing?
  • @vcarchidi Vincent Carchidi on bluesky
    Trump must've gotten wind of the internal memo  —  bsky.app/profile/tech...  [embedded post]
  • r/law r on reddit
    Pentagon Formally Labels Anthropic Supply-Chain Risk, Escalating Conflict
  • r/artificial r on reddit
    Pentagon Formally Labels Anthropic Supply-Chain Risk, Escalating Conflict
  • r/accelerate r on reddit
    Pentagon formally designates Anthropic a supply-chain risk
  • r/singularity r on reddit
    Pentagon formally designates Anthropic a supply-chain risk
  • r/technology r on reddit
    Pentagon formally designates Anthropic a supply-chain risk
  • NewsMax.com Nicole Weatherholtz on x
    Trump: I ‘Fired’ Anthropic ‘Like Dogs’ Over Pentagon Dispute
  • @dman777 @dman777 on bluesky
    History of the United States indicates otherwise
  • @peculiarparsnip @peculiarparsnip on bluesky
    Neither should be more powerful than the voice of the people.  [embedded post]
  • r/OpenAI r on reddit
    OpenAI's Altman takes jabs at Anthropic, says government should be more powerful than companies
  • r/italy r on reddit
    Anthropic: il Ministero della Guerra la disegna come “supply chain risk”, è la prima volta per una azienda statunitense
  • @flingjore.com @flingjore.com on bluesky
    Defense Department designates Anthropic supply-chain risk after the AI startup restricts military use of its Claude model.  Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's move, historically reserved for foreign adversaries, may force all federal contractors to cut ties with the firm.
  • @tristansevers @tristansevers on x
    Something is a supply chain risk _because_ it is crucial to ongoing operations but foreseeably subject to an external veto. Did none of you read the law? ...OK admittedly it's one of the most opaquely phrased laws I've ever seen. But it does explain this!
  • @laurengoode Lauren Goode on bluesky
    Huge scoop from @mzeff.bsky.social: Sources say the DoD used Microsoft's version of OpenAI technology before the ChatGPT-maker lifted its prohibition on military applications www.wired.com/story/openai...
  • @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x
    It would be cool, aesthetically, if we had a yudkowskian SecWar who saw anthropic as the most /acc of the labs and designated them enemies of the state on that basis, but instead it is because SecWar thinks that Dario's personal home has 93 special bathrooms for all the Genders
  • @danprimack Dan Primack on x
    Shots fired by someone who usually keeps his public powder dry (yes, Kushner is big OpenAI investor)
  • @joshuakushner Joshua Kushner on x
    dario's commitment to hating openai is seemingly stronger than his commitment to the values and principles of anthropic
  • @paularmstrongtbd Paul Armstrong on bluesky
    How nice they are to protect their multi-billion dollar investment.  [embedded post]
  • @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x
    “Goddam pesky ethics panels. Can't have that! Full steam ahead, no matter what the cost.”
  • @ericnewcomer Eric Newcomer on x
    worth reading this interview with @emilmichael in @PirateWires https://www.piratewires.com/ ...
  • @alexkozak Alex Kozak on x
    Gets flustered by bureaucracy, high ego, blames the previous guy, blows up existing supplier (that seemed to be adding value?) b/c of weird hypotheticals, didn't forsee (or care) about public spat. All so avoidable - why are we here??
  • @hamandcheese Samuel Hammond on x
    Nothing in here to justify the SCR decision, though nice to hear the bridge isn't totally burned. One hopes cooler heads will prevail and the designation will be withdrawn sooner rather than later.
  • @gurumedasani @gurumedasani on x
    @AnthropicAI should take this guy to court for declaring a major American AI lab a supply chain risk when it isn't. They have clearly been using Anthropic models successfully in Department of Defense missions and now want to punish them. This approach will fail as they will
  • @jasonmhicks Jason Hicks on x
    It's easy to get an ‘exclusive’ if you interview one interested party and don't challenge them, but it's not journalism.
  • @solaawodiya Sola Awodiya on x
    For those wondering how the Anthropic saga started, take a read.
  • @gdsimms @gdsimms on x
    ok, I was unsure & leaning this way so far, but this really cements that the DoW did the right thing re: Anthropic. Sorry guys, love your product but you simply can not act like all of your customers are in the same league. Hopefully you can swallow your pride & move forward.
  • @calccon @calccon on x
    “This is a contract that should be made with GEICO Insurance, not with the Department of War,”
  • @nic_carter Nic Carter on x
    every single piece of evidence and reporting about the Anthropic/DoW spat has revealed that they were an absolute liability and had no place in our wartime military infrastructure*
  • @scotthar_tx @scotthar_tx on x
    Hmmm... @andrewrsorkin has reported on-air for the last few days that OpenAI has the very same problematic terms described, that caused the DOW to part with Anthropic. He says these ToS are really a fig leaf for Anthropic not being MAGA enough in its politics. Which is it?
  • @micsolana Mike Solana on x
    pirate wires interviewed the DOW's AI chief yesterday. new details here on the negotiation with anthropic, including more context on the SCR designations, and color on a massive culture clash. most salient point, perhaps: emil michael says a deal is still possible.
  • @piratewires @piratewires on x
    EXCLUSIVE: Department of War AI Chief On How The Anthropic Deal Collapsed When Emil Michael (@USWREMichael) took over the Department of War's AI portfolio last August, he discovered the Biden admin had been “asleep at the wheel” when it came to top military contracts. “I was [ima…
  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    anthropic getting some vouches from Microsoft, Google and even Amazon, telling customers that you can still use their clouds to run anthropic's AI products as long as it's not involving DoD work... https://www.cnbc.com/...
  • @smi Stacy-Marie Ishmael on bluesky
    “I also want to apologize directly for a post internal to the company that was leaked to the press yesterday.  Anthropic did not leak this post nor direct anyone else to do so—it is not in our interest to escalate this situation.”  —  www.anthropic.com/news/where- s...
  • @alecstapp Alec Stapp on x
    Hegseth tried to kill Anthropic with the misleading way he described the supply chain risk designation in his tweet announcement. But it looks like the company will survive now that the smoke has cleared a bit: [image]
  • @charliebul58993 Charlie Bullock on x
    This is illuminating re: DoW's thinking, but it doesn't remotely justify the decision to declare Anthropic a supply chain risk. 3252 defines “supply chain risk” as follows: “The term ‘supply chain risk’ means the risk that an adversary may sabotage, maliciously introduce
  • @a16z @a16z on x
    Under Secretary of War for Research and Engineering Emil Michael on being the CTO of the Department of War, applying lessons from Silicon Valley at the Pentagon, and his “holy cow” moment with AI vendors. 00:00 Silicon Valley to DC 02:03 Why the DoW cannot operate at “peacetime […
  • @paulnovosad Paul Novosad on x
    Worth reading, since 99% of the chatter on here has been Anthropic=saint, Hegseth=psychopath
  • @jawwwn_ @jawwwn_ on x
    .@USWREMichael says the Maduro raid was the trigger point for the DoW's conflict with Anthropic: “Palantir's the prime contractor. [Anthropic] is the sub.” “One of [Anthropic's] execs called Palantir and asked, ‘Was our software used in that raid?’” “So— they're trying to get [vi…
  • @nathanleamerdc Nathan Leamer on x
    The team at @PirateWires have an enlightening interview with @USWREMichael. He explains how the @DeptofWar made the important decision to confront Anthropic over their onerous terms and services that would significantly impair our nation's military readiness. [image]
  • @deredleritt3r Prinz on x
    This clarifies why the DoD is pursuing the supply chain risk designation against Anthropic. The tensions started with the Maduro raid. The DoD was using Palantir as a service provider during the raid. Palantir was using Claude. Anthropic contacted Palantir and started asking