On Joe Rogan's JRE, Matt Damon and Ben Affleck discuss Hollywood and AI; Damon says Netflix wants movies to restate the plot because viewers are on their phones
Variety Jack Dunn
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@bearlyai
@bearlyai
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Ben Affleck also went off on AI in Hollywood: ▫️LLM fim script outputs are mid ("by its nature, [the models go] to the mean, the average") ▫️but they are useful tools for research ▫️doesn't think it'll ever make a film whole cloth ▫️it's a tool just like VFX and will be useful [v…
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@andymasley
Andy Masley
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It's crazy how this is better than 95% of popular AI commentary but unfortunately imo still incorrect. Seems like he's thinking about it a ton tho
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@owl_posting
@owl_posting
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you could make an argument that his take here is too strong, but you can viscerally feel that some of the distaste to this video is directly stemming from surprise that someone so seemingly out-group Knows Stuff, so people must now up the ante to prove that he, in actuality,
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@clairlemon
Claire Lehmann
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So much culture is downstream of economics
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@zymazza
@zymazza
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And then I'm on my phone because this movie is boring and they're just reiterating the same plot points 3-4x
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@trungtphan
Trung Phan
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Matt Damon and Ben Affleck on Rogan taking about how Netflix has changed filmmaking. A major considerations is dealing with distracted viewers. To keep them tuned in, “you re-iterate the plot 3-4x in the dialogue because people are on their phones.” Then, in action films, you [vi…
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@pourfairelevide
Jon Repetti
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this is how basically all TV shows and TV movies have always been written except for a tiny subset of prestige programs on a few cable networks. if we just accepted that Netflix is just TV by other means a lot of you could finally relax
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@forrestpknight
Forrest
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Honestly, Ben Affleck actually knowing AI and the landscape caught me off guard, but as a writer, makes sense. Great takes across the board. [video]
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@dead_baseball
@dead_baseball
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Had roommates that had never seen Die Hard so I decided to watch it with them. The entire movie they're doing chores and on their phones. At the end of the movie, one of them said “I didn't like it.” I asked him “why did the bad guys hold the building hostage?”...
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@barondestructo
@barondestructo
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I prefer shows that repeatedly spoon feed me their plots as if I were a time traveling narcoleptic imbecile from the 17th century experiencing film and television for the first time.
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@thecinesthetic
@thecinesthetic
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Matt Damon and Ben Affleck on Rogan taking about how Netflix has changed filmmaking. “you re-iterate the plot 3-4x in the dialogue because people are on their phones.” [video]
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@tom_lsoo
Tom van der Linden
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Two guys who actually should have their own podcast
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@freightalley
Craig Fuller
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Affleck has a better grasp on the limitations and issues in AI than 99% of the VCs that are actively investing in the space
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@lynaldencontact
Lyn Alden
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The idea of changing around movie craft to accommodate viewer distraction is so depressing.
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@lookatmymeat1
Johann
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Ever notice in Stanger Things how every season theres a scene where they all gather in a room and literally describe not only the plan but what they're doing EXACTLY at that moment
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@danielrpk
Daniel Richtman
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Oh so that rumor about Netflix was true 😐
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@khuze_elikhulu
@khuze_elikhulu
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This is another reason why he was the perfect Batman. Coz he's actually smart. That line about AI being horrible because by its nature it always trends towards the mean? Excellent.
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@mattzeitlin
Matthew Zeitlin
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You must understand this: he's the smart one
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@ross__hendricks
Ross Hendricks
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Everyone slowly, then all at once, coming to the same realization that the AI hype is exactly that... hype. Used to justify trillions in capex that will likely never see a return.
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@lthomasnews
Luke Thomas🏋️
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This is depressing.
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@ctachio83984
Chris Tachio
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the video of him speaking really good spanish with all the native inflections and stuff was somewhat surprising to me at the time but when i see this video with the sound off i feel like his body language fits his spanish voice a lot better than his english one
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@andthatsbb
Jacob
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Actual film writers and directors have to operate like youtubers now we really fucked everything up
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@jackposobiec
Jack Posobiec
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I can't get enough of this type of content. Entertainment is a business. People need to understand that more
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@groditid
@groditid
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i'm glad i am not imagining things because netflix originals mostly became unwatchable because of this. everything is spelled out multiple times, as if they do not trust you with being able to do any of the work yourself. ironically, it makes me turn things off in annoyance
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@jtfoz
Joe Osborne
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@DiscussingFilm Kinda pathetic that people can't sit through a movie without being on their phones the whole time.
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@xqc
@xqc
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@Variety Good take. I've been watching (too much) Netflix shows and every single time there is a mystery or a secret, I start theorizing what it could be and by the time I have my answer, the shows will just give me the answer for free and re-explain it again when relevant. It's …
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@robkhenderson
Rob Henderson
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Yes endless exposition has made many shows unwatchable.
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@blackmajikman90
@blackmajikman90
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I'm starting to understand why Netflix films are so poorly written
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@hdmoviesource
@hdmoviesource
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This is why I go to the theater. I want a movie, not a checklist to keep distracted viewers caught up.
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@grummz
@grummz
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This is depressing. Movies refactored for instance grab zero attention span. Art drained for algo.
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@dead_baseball
@dead_baseball
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A basic premise of the movie that anyone could answer if they paid attention for a minute at any point. Couldn't answer. What bothers me is not that they didn't watch or pay attention to Die Hard... it's that one of them said Die Hard was bad when he didn't really watch it.
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@colin_gladman
Colin
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It's really sad how true this is and also makes a lot of sense. Having said that, I will die on the hill of going to the movies is the best way to experience one. Being in a packed theater with a bunch of strangers, of all different backgrounds and socioeconomic standards,
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@dead_baseball
@dead_baseball
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I thought it was really really odd behavior. When I watch a movie, I watch the movie with my full attention. What I didn't realize at the time is this is how the majority of people watch movies at home. It's baffling to me.
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