Apple's macOS Tahoe adds icons to every menu item, resulting in menus that are hard to use and go against the long-standing Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines
accompanied by explanation: — Fast forward to 2025. Apple releases macOS Tahoe. Main attraction?
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Discussion
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@snazzylabs
Quinn Nelson
on x
This is a superb article on a horribly ugly website lol. As a lifelong Mac user, I've been thrown back into the deep end with Tahoe. And I hate it. HIG means nothing anymore and Liquid Glass on the Mac is absolutely wretched.
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@chadmoran
Chad Moran
on x
The HIG and Apples design principles were once the pinnacle of what good design is. Now it's the flea market of design. And that's being nice.
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@eva.town
Eva
on bluesky
still not upgrading to Tahoe. you can't make me.
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@mackuba.eu
Kuba Suder
on bluesky
Man, this is fucking brutal... 😐 #Mac #macOS #Tahoe — (it's about the icons in menus, not the app icons)
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@swank.ca
Jesse Wilson
on bluesky
I love a good UI rant, and this one brought receipts
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@tylermw.com
Tyler Morgan-Wall
on bluesky
This blog post on the proliferation of icons in macOS Tahoe makes the decision clear: I'm never updating to this cluttered mess. Where did your aesthetic taste go, Apple? Yuck. 🤮 — Left: Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines — Right: macOS Tahoe — Read the post: …
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@joelanman
Joe Lanman
on bluesky
nearly all of the graphic design of new MacOS is awful, including these icons (click the snow icon at the top to stop it snowing) — tonsky.me/blog/tahoe-i...
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@johnspurlock.com
John Spurlock
on bluesky
'On the upside: it's not that hard anymore to design better than Apple! Let's drink to that' — tonsky.me/blog/tahoe-i...
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@jochenwolters@mastodon.social
Jochen Wolters
on mastodon
I only now learned that Tonsky also created the #FiraCode programmers' font. If you develop #code of any kind, do yourself a favor and check it out: — https://github.com/...
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@searls@mastodon.social
Justin Searls
on mastodon
Glad someone else wrote this. IDGAF about macOS Tahoe app icons because they're something I see for a split-second when launching apps, but the new contextual menu icons are far more of a nuisance to trying to use apps. So much visual noise. https://tonsky.me/...
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@stroughtonsmith …
Steve Troughton-Smith
on mastodon
If the Mac is really getting touch support over the next year, as rumored, there's very little chance of UI metrics or iconography going back to how it was in earlier releases. Those are the before-times now, no matter who is in charge of design. — It's way more likely to *inh…
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@marcoarment@mastodon.social
Marco Arment
on mastodon
“Apple [UI design] took on an impossible task... And even if the premise was solid, I still wish I could say: they did the best they could, given the goal. But that's not true either: they did a poor job consistently applying the metaphors and designing the icons themselves.” —…
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@lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social
Jeff Johnson
on mastodon
I couldn't read the blog post with the fucking snow. — I know there are ways to stop or avoid the snow, but I refuse to do it on principle. The user-hostile animations in the blog post are much worse than anything in Tahoe, and that's saying a lot, because Tahoe is quite user-…
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@tuomas_h@mastodon.social
@tuomas_h@mastodon.social
on mastodon
This is the most in-depth, most spot-on piece I've read about what's wrong with icons in menus in Mac OS Tahoe. Well worth your time. — https://mastodon.online/...
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@RYStorm@mastodon.gamedev.place
Robin-Yann Storm
on mastodon
An exceptional writeup of UX, UI, and icon design: https://tonsky.me/... A kind of classical look at ‘less is more’ with lots of images to prove the point.
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@davedelong@mastodon.social
Dave DeLong
on mastodon
An epic deep dive into all the issues with icons in menus in macOS Tahoe: https://tonsky.me/...
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@marcoarment@mastodon.social
Marco Arment
on mastodon
This is a masterpiece. — https://mastodon.online/...
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@nikitonsky@mastodon.online
Niki Tonsky
on mastodon
New blog post! A close look at Tahoe menu icons. With 109 illustrations! https://tonsky.me/...
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@jamesthomson@mastodon.social
James Thomson
on mastodon
On Tahoe, why is the image next to the save command in the File menu “square.and.arrow.down”, but the export and share commands are “square.and.arrow.up” and import has the arrow pointing _down_? — [image]
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