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Apple's macOS Tahoe adds icons to every menu item, resulting in menus that are hard to use and go against the long-standing Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines

accompanied by explanation:  —  Fast forward to 2025.  Apple releases macOS Tahoe.  Main attraction?

tonsky.me Niki Tonsky

Context & Ripple Effects

Tahoe’s Liquid Glass overhaul was introduced as a broad macOS redesign, while early hands-on coverage already found the visual treatment uneven and Spotlight’s improvements more compelling than parts of the interface. This menu critique narrows that broader concern to a basic desktop interaction. Early Tahoe testing called Liquid Glass occasionally overwrought.

The complaint also extends a pattern seen in later coverage, which characterized Tahoe’s interface as resembling an awkward iOS import. It matters because menus are a persistent navigation layer rather than an optional new feature. A later hands-on described the interface as a poorly imported iOS design.

First-order effects

  • Tahoe users must scan icon-and-text rows in everyday menus, adding visual clutter to an interaction model historically organized around concise labels and keyboard shortcuts.
  • Apple’s desktop design team faces a concrete usability objection to a design-system choice within its larger Tahoe visual overhaul.

Second-order effects

  • Developers and interface designers have a fresh example of how decorative or redundant iconography can make dense command surfaces harder to parse, particularly on desktop software.
  • If users and reviewers treat the issue as part of Tahoe’s broader design problem, Apple may face pressure to simplify menu presentation or make it more configurable in future updates.

Third-order effects

  • The episode suggests a continuing tension in platform design: visual consistency across devices can conflict with desktop conventions optimized for information density and expert use.
  • If this pattern persists, operating-system redesigns will be judged less by visual novelty alone and more by whether they preserve the speed and legibility of established interaction primitives.

The trend: Desktop platforms are increasingly testing how far mobile-influenced visual systems can extend before they erode the efficiency of mature desktop workflows.

Discussion

  • @snazzylabs Quinn Nelson on x
    This is a superb article on a horribly ugly website lol. As a lifelong Mac user, I've been thrown back into the deep end with Tahoe. And I hate it. HIG means nothing anymore and Liquid Glass on the Mac is absolutely wretched.
  • @chadmoran Chad Moran on x
    The HIG and Apples design principles were once the pinnacle of what good design is. Now it's the flea market of design. And that's being nice.
  • @eva.town Eva on bluesky
    still not upgrading to Tahoe. you can't make me.
  • @mackuba.eu Kuba Suder on bluesky
    Man, this is fucking brutal... 😐 #Mac #macOS #Tahoe  —  (it's about the icons in menus, not the app icons)
  • @swank.ca Jesse Wilson on bluesky
    I love a good UI rant, and this one brought receipts
  • @tylermw.com Tyler Morgan-Wall on bluesky
    This blog post on the proliferation of icons in macOS Tahoe makes the decision clear: I'm never updating to this cluttered mess.  Where did your aesthetic taste go, Apple?  Yuck.  🤮  —  Left: Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines  —  Right: macOS Tahoe  —  Read the post: …
  • @joelanman Joe Lanman on bluesky
    nearly all of the graphic design of new MacOS is awful, including these icons (click the snow icon at the top to stop it snowing)  —  tonsky.me/blog/tahoe-i...
  • @johnspurlock.com John Spurlock on bluesky
    'On the upside: it's not that hard anymore to design better than Apple!  Let's drink to that'  —  tonsky.me/blog/tahoe-i...
  • @jochenwolters@mastodon.social Jochen Wolters on mastodon
    I only now learned that Tonsky also created the #FiraCode programmers' font.  If you develop #code of any kind, do yourself a favor and check it out:  —  https://github.com/...
  • @searls@mastodon.social Justin Searls on mastodon
    Glad someone else wrote this.  IDGAF about macOS Tahoe app icons because they're something I see for a split-second when launching apps, but the new contextual menu icons are far more of a nuisance to trying to use apps.  So much visual noise. https://tonsky.me/...
  • @stroughtonsmith … Steve Troughton-Smith on mastodon
    If the Mac is really getting touch support over the next year, as rumored, there's very little chance of UI metrics or iconography going back to how it was in earlier releases.  Those are the before-times now, no matter who is in charge of design.  —  It's way more likely to *inh…
  • @marcoarment@mastodon.social Marco Arment on mastodon
    “Apple [UI design] took on an impossible task... And even if the premise was solid, I still wish I could say: they did the best they could, given the goal.  But that's not true either: they did a poor job consistently applying the metaphors and designing the icons themselves.”  —…
  • @lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social Jeff Johnson on mastodon
    I couldn't read the blog post with the fucking snow.  —  I know there are ways to stop or avoid the snow, but I refuse to do it on principle.  The user-hostile animations in the blog post are much worse than anything in Tahoe, and that's saying a lot, because Tahoe is quite user-…
  • @tuomas_h@mastodon.social @tuomas_h@mastodon.social on mastodon
    This is the most in-depth, most spot-on piece I've read about what's wrong with icons in menus in Mac OS Tahoe.  Well worth your time.  —  https://mastodon.online/...
  • @RYStorm@mastodon.gamedev.place Robin-Yann Storm on mastodon
    An exceptional writeup of UX, UI, and icon design: https://tonsky.me/...  A kind of classical look at ‘less is more’ with lots of images to prove the point.
  • @davedelong@mastodon.social Dave DeLong on mastodon
    An epic deep dive into all the issues with icons in menus in macOS Tahoe: https://tonsky.me/...
  • @marcoarment@mastodon.social Marco Arment on mastodon
    This is a masterpiece.  —  https://mastodon.online/...
  • @nikitonsky@mastodon.online Niki Tonsky on mastodon
    New blog post!  A close look at Tahoe menu icons.  With 109 illustrations! https://tonsky.me/...
  • @jamesthomson@mastodon.social James Thomson on mastodon
    On Tahoe, why is the image next to the save command in the File menu “square.and.arrow.down”, but the export and share commands are “square.and.arrow.up” and import has the arrow pointing _down_?  —  [image]
  • r/MacOS r on reddit
    It's hard to justify Tahoe icons
  • r/apple r on reddit
    It's hard to justify Tahoe icons