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Experts say the lack of publicly available data makes it difficult to verify claims by Tesla and others about the safety of their autonomous driving tech

Automakers and technology companies say they are making driving safer, but verifying these claims is difficult. Tweets: @2plus2make5 , @parismarx , @davidzipper , @garymarcus , @noahgoodall , and @iihs_autosafety Tweets: Emma Pierson / @2plus2make5 : https://www.nytimes.com/... Tesla: drivers crash less when using Autopilot. Obvious issue: Autopilot is used on highway/good conditions. Tesla could easily report crash rates when controlling for these confounds, but they don't. This has always made me suspicious. 1/2 Paris Marx / @parismarx : “Publicly available data that reliably measures the safety of these technologies is scant. American drivers—whether using these systems or sharing the road with them—are effectively guinea pigs in an experiment whose results have not yet been revealed.” https://www.nytimes.com/... David Zipper / @davidzipper : “American drivers — whether using these [driver assistance] systems or sharing the road with them — are effectively guinea pigs in an experiment whose results have not yet been revealed.” https://www.nytimes.com/... Gary Marcus / @garymarcus : two paragraphs buried in @CadeMetz's newest article on autonomous driving that should make @tesla shareholders pretty nervous: source: https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/... Noah Goodall / @noahgoodall : Measuring safety of vehicle automation features is hard, mostly due to lack of data. One needs crashes (of a defined severity threshold) and mileage (ideally w/ & w/o system engaged) over a consistent road type (ACC used on freeways, which are 2x safer) 1/ https://www.nytimes.com/... Iihs / @iihs_autosafety : While IIHS & HLDI research show definitive safety benefits from crash prevention tech like automatic emergency braking, a payoff is not immediately clear for newer partially automated driver assistance systems. The story from @nytimes @CadeMetz https://www.nytimes.com/...

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  • @parismarx Paris Marx on x
    “Publicly available data that reliably measures the safety of these technologies is scant. American drivers—whether using these systems or sharing the road with them—are effectively guinea pigs in an experiment whose results have not yet been revealed.” https://www.nytimes.com/..…
  • @2plus2make5 Emma Pierson on x
    https://www.nytimes.com/... Tesla: drivers crash less when using Autopilot. Obvious issue: Autopilot is used on highway/good conditions. Tesla could easily report crash rates when controlling for these confounds, but they don't. This has always made me suspicious. 1/2
  • @davidzipper David Zipper on x
    “American drivers — whether using these [driver assistance] systems or sharing the road with them — are effectively guinea pigs in an experiment whose results have not yet been revealed.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x
    two paragraphs buried in @CadeMetz's newest article on autonomous driving that should make @tesla shareholders pretty nervous: source: https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @noahgoodall Noah Goodall on x
    Measuring safety of vehicle automation features is hard, mostly due to lack of data. One needs crashes (of a defined severity threshold) and mileage (ideally w/ & w/o system engaged) over a consistent road type (ACC used on freeways, which are 2x safer) 1/ https://www.nytimes.com…
  • @iihs_autosafety Iihs on x
    While IIHS & HLDI research show definitive safety benefits from crash prevention tech like automatic emergency braking, a payoff is not immediately clear for newer partially automated driver assistance systems. The story from @nytimes @CadeMetz https://www.nytimes.com/...