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NHTSA: Tesla will issue an OTA update for 53,822 cars and SUVs to remove an FSD feature that let vehicles roll through stop signs without coming to a halt

and who is not a lobbyist — had to protect his tweets due to bullying, which I guess has sufficiently filled the role of Tesla's disbanded PR department https://apnews.com/... Aaron Weiss / @aweiss : In hindsight, teaching Teslas to drive like Tesla owners wasn't a great idea https://twitter.com/... @mikeelgan : In fairness, Tesla never advertised full self-stopping https://apnews.com/... Olivier Knox / @oknox : This seems...sub-optimal. “The recall shows that Tesla programmed its vehicles to violate the law in most states, where police will ticket drivers for disregarding stop signs.” https://apnews.com/... Tom Gara / @tomgara : An interesting language thing, which I assume is related to regulatory stuff, is that “recall” here means “do an over the air software update” https://www.reuters.com/... Liza Dixon / @lizadixon : It makes sense NHTSA is moving on this “feature” as it is hyper specific & in conflict with one of the most important laws on-road. Stop signs also tend to be in areas where there are more VRUs. A small pain for Tesla, but a positive move for road safety. https://www.reuters.com/... David Zipper / @davidzipper : @NHTSAgov UPDATE: @NHTSAgov has put the kibosh on FSD's “rolling stops.” 53k+ Teslas with FSD are being recalled. Good. https://www.reuters.com/... E.W. Niedermeyer / @tweetermeyer : Well, this is a start! That said, the idea that “Full Self-Driving” is only dangerous when it is *explicitly programmed to break the law* feels like... a somewhat low bar for adding new risks to an activity that already kills 40k Americans each year. https://www.reuters.com/... @errolbarnett : New: Potentially 54k @Tesla vehicles recalled over “failing to stop” at stop signs. @NHTSAgov points to the “rolling stop” feature of the Full Self Driving (beta) software. Tesla to disable feature via over-the-air software update. https://www.nhtsa.gov/... @CBSNews https://twitter.com/... @carnage4life : Tesla had a feature as part of “Full Self Driving” where it didn't stop at stop signs but merely slowed down? As someone who's been pulled over by cops for a rolling stop I'm completely stunned this was considered a feature and not a law breaking bug. https://apnews.com/...

Associated Press Tom Krisher

Context & Ripple Effects

Tesla’s stop-sign automation began with an earlier update that enabled automatic stopping at signs and lights. The rolling-stop behavior now forces a narrower reversal through the same over-the-air delivery mechanism.

The action also fits a recent pattern in which an FSD update prompted a recall over inadvertent emergency braking, while Tesla has separately rolled back an FSD beta release after issues emerged.

First-order effects

  • Owners of 53,822 affected Tesla vehicles lose the FSD rolling-stop behavior once the OTA update is installed; Tesla must remove a feature rather than repair hardware.
  • NHTSA establishes that an FSD driving behavior can require recall treatment when it conflicts with stop-sign requirements.

Second-order effects

  • Tesla’s FSD release process faces greater pressure to validate edge-case driving behavior before broad deployment, following both the emergency-braking recall and the 10.3 beta rollback.
  • OTA delivery gives Tesla a rapid remedy, but it also makes software changes a recurring compliance and recall channel rather than a purely product-update channel.

Third-order effects

  • If this pattern persists, automated-driving features will be governed increasingly as revisable vehicle safety functions: broad deployment can be followed by regulator-driven feature withdrawals.
  • The durable competitive advantage in driver assistance shifts toward controlled rollout and recovery processes, not simply adding more autonomous behaviors.

The trend: Driver-assistance software is moving toward continuous, regulator-constrained deployment in which OTA updates can both expand and retract vehicle capabilities.

Discussion

  • @taylorogan Taylor Ogan on x
    Here's a typical drive on Tesla FSD Beta, and why it's the opposite of useful. It's most certainly not even close to being “safer than a human”, by any factor. 22-minute drive, 4.5 miles, and WAY too many interventions. https://twitter.com/...
  • @elonmusk Elon Musk on x
    @WholeMarsBlog @tkrisher He's actually a lobbyist, not a journalist. There are many who pose as the latter while behaving like the former. No integrity. Indeed, there were no safety issues. The car simply slowed to ~2 mph & continued forward if clear view with no cars or pedestri…
  • @jraindc Jonathan Adkins on x
    .@GHSAHQ continues to have significant concerns with Tesla. “They keep pushing the bounds of safety to see what they can get away with, and they've really been pushing a lot,” he said. “Each time it's just a little bit more egregious.” https://abcnews.go.com/...
  • @gtconway3d George Conway on x
    sounds like we should be recalling most human drivers then https://twitter.com/...
  • @samjmintz Sam Mintz on x
    This entire thread is mind-boggling. Rolling stops like he's describing, which were built into the Tesla software and resulted in a recall, are literally illegal in every state of the country. https://twitter.com/...
  • @ballaban Michael Ballaban on x
    This is the thing that gets me. A lot of the interventions aren't for minor cases, or instances where a decision could've gone either way. When we made our own video at CNN, it was blatantly dangerous, baffling situations, just like the ones seen here. https://twitter.com/...
  • @awalkerinla Alissa Walker on x
    The journalist who wrote this story — and who is not a lobbyist — had to protect his tweets due to bullying, which I guess has sufficiently filled the role of Tesla's disbanded PR department https://apnews.com/...
  • @aweiss Aaron Weiss on x
    In hindsight, teaching Teslas to drive like Tesla owners wasn't a great idea https://twitter.com/...
  • @mikeelgan @mikeelgan on x
    In fairness, Tesla never advertised full self-stopping https://apnews.com/...
  • @oknox Olivier Knox on x
    This seems...sub-optimal. “The recall shows that Tesla programmed its vehicles to violate the law in most states, where police will ticket drivers for disregarding stop signs.” https://apnews.com/...
  • @tomgara Tom Gara on x
    An interesting language thing, which I assume is related to regulatory stuff, is that “recall” here means “do an over the air software update” https://www.reuters.com/...
  • @lizadixon Liza Dixon on x
    It makes sense NHTSA is moving on this “feature” as it is hyper specific & in conflict with one of the most important laws on-road. Stop signs also tend to be in areas where there are more VRUs. A small pain for Tesla, but a positive move for road safety. https://www.reuters.com/…
  • @davidzipper David Zipper on x
    @NHTSAgov UPDATE: @NHTSAgov has put the kibosh on FSD's “rolling stops.” 53k+ Teslas with FSD are being recalled. Good. https://www.reuters.com/...
  • @tweetermeyer E.W. Niedermeyer on x
    Well, this is a start! That said, the idea that “Full Self-Driving” is only dangerous when it is *explicitly programmed to break the law* feels like... a somewhat low bar for adding new risks to an activity that already kills 40k Americans each year. https://www.reuters.com/...
  • @errolbarnett @errolbarnett on x
    New: Potentially 54k @Tesla vehicles recalled over “failing to stop” at stop signs. @NHTSAgov points to the “rolling stop” feature of the Full Self Driving (beta) software. Tesla to disable feature via over-the-air software update. https://www.nhtsa.gov/... @CBSNews https://twitt…
  • @carnage4life @carnage4life on x
    Tesla had a feature as part of “Full Self Driving” where it didn't stop at stop signs but merely slowed down? As someone who's been pulled over by cops for a rolling stop I'm completely stunned this was considered a feature and not a law breaking bug. https://apnews.com/...