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Google's three years of security updates for its older phones like 2018's Pixel 3 is planned obsolescence; new Pixels get five years of support vs. iPhones' ~6

Google calls that a ‘great experience’ Ben Schoon / 9to5Google : Google still thinks 3 years of updates provide a ‘great experience’ ahead of cutting off Pixel 3 Arthur Brown / Android Headlines : Google Is still Happy With 3 Years Of Software Updates Nick Heer / Pixel Envy : Google Ends Security Updates for Its Pixel 3 Line Just Three Years After Launch Andrew / Phandroid : It's time for Google to be better about software updates Tweets: @migueldeicaza : iPhone XS and Pixel 3 launched within months of each other, iPhone had twice the performance. iPhones are serviced for 6 years, Pixels 3: Pixel3/64 was 799: $266/year XS/64 was 999: 166/year Pixel3/128 was 899: $300/year XS/256 was 1149: $191/year https://t.co/awR1uoJEwn https://t.co/P6L4Cs8LrU John Scott-Railton / @jsrailton : iPhone: ~7 yrs of updates Google Pixel 3: 3 yrs Newest Pixel: 5 yrs Problem w/ @android phones? Updates stop much too soon. Phones become insecure. Sad that @Google isn't achieving parity w/iPhone. Seriously wasteful. 1/ By @A_W_Gordon https://www.vice.com/... https://twitter.com/... @migueldeicaza : @chucker I have yet to service the phones the kids are using, which are an iPhone X, an iPhone 7, and an iPhone 6S. Dan Seifert / @dcseifert : why does this matter to anyone? because if you're buying a phone and want better support, knowing why one phone gets it and another doesn't helps inform your purchasing decision. Apple makes its own chips, hence longer support! Google does now too, same deal. Dan Seifert / @dcseifert : the core issue is that the Pixel 3 uses a Qualcomm chip and Qualcomm, not Google, decides when to stop supporting its processors. the Pixel 6 doesn't use a Qualcomm chip, hence Google can provide longer support. John Scott-Railton / @jsrailton : @RFPhotog ... Concrete example: an iPhone 6s (2015) that got an update to iOS 15 became secure against one of the most sophisticated threats we tracked recently. Also, globally, most people can't afford a new phone every 2-3 years. @migueldeicaza : Today's offerings: Pixel 6 Pro, $899: $300/year iPhone 13Pro, $999: $166/year 513 GB models: Pixel6 Pro, $1099: $366/year iPhone 13Pro, $1299: $216/year iPhone is 1.6x faster Dan Seifert / @dcseifert : i appreciate this article's overall point and what it's saying about how poorly supporting phones is irresponsible on the manufacturers, but it falls short explaining _why_ the Pixel 6 is the first Google phone to have more than three years of support https://www.vice.com/... @pikhq : the really sad thing is, this is typical of the android ecosystem. if you want a phone that gets security updates a long time (that is, a phone that you won't _literally have to_ replace after 2 or 3 years), you have to get an iPhone https://twitter.com/... @gael_duval : “Google Is Forcing Me to Dump a Perfectly Good Phone” The good news now: you can install /e/ OS on your device! With those benefits: 1- sustainability 2- you don't send your data to Google anymore #mydataisMYdata #privacy https://www.vice.com/... via @motherboard @VICE Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai / @lorenzofb : Google said: “we find that three years of security and OS updates still provides users with a great experience for their device.” This is an incredible statement given that Apple still supports the iPhone 6S, released in...* checks notes *... 2015. https://www.vice.com/... Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai / @lorenzofb : Years ago, I gave up on Android because it didn't get frequent security updates. It's 2022 and it's still happening, even to Google-made phones like the Pixel. So one of my collegues is also saying “Goodbye, Android.” https://www.vice.com/... Brandon Philips / @brandonphilips : As the “computer person” in my family it is embarrassing to have to tell folks who have owned their phone a little over 2 years they need to upgrade. Maybe Google expects folks not to pay attention to this stuff? I feel most people have a trusted advisor who does pay attention. https://twitter.com/... Rene Ritchie / @reneritchie : Two of the things I've always strived to address in my reviews is up-front-cost vs. total cost of ownership/resale and “this chipset scrolls fine now” vs. “this chipset has headroom for 5+ years of updates” Cost isn't value and specs aren't experience absent mainstream context https://t.co/NDs611EEJk Brandon Philips / @brandonphilips : I bought a Pixel 3 in 2018 and now in about 3 years Pixel 3 has lost security updates. For all of the talk of net zero corporate emissions @Google need to do better by it's hardware users on ChromeOS and Android. https://twitter.com/... Dan Goodin / @dangoodin001 : @Google John has now updated his tweet to note newest Pixels get 5 years of updates. That's better but still not as good as what Apple offers. https://twitter.com/... @motherboard : Despite being just three years old, no Pixel 3 will ever receive another official security update https://www.vice.com/... @mpavictoria : Look I know Apple has huge issues but at least they usually support their products for a decent length of time. My current iPhone is over 3 years old and still going strong https://twitter.com/... Blake E. Reid / @blakereid : This should be grounds for a Section 5 unfairness claim and if it isn't, it's a pretty good case study for building cybersecurity legislation https://twitter.com/... Jason Koebler / @jason_koebler : google says 3 years is max lifespan for the Pixel 3 which is pathetic https://www.vice.com/...

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Discussion

  • @migueldeicaza @migueldeicaza on x
    iPhone XS and Pixel 3 launched within months of each other, iPhone had twice the performance. iPhones are serviced for 6 years, Pixels 3: Pixel3/64 was 799: $266/year XS/64 was 999: 166/year Pixel3/128 was 899: $300/year XS/256 was 1149: $191/year https://t.co/awR1uoJEwn https://…
  • @jsrailton John Scott-Railton on x
    iPhone: ~7 yrs of updates Google Pixel 3: 3 yrs Newest Pixel: 5 yrs Problem w/ @android phones? Updates stop much too soon. Phones become insecure. Sad that @Google isn't achieving parity w/iPhone. Seriously wasteful. 1/ By @A_W_Gordon https://www.vice.com/... https://twitter.com…
  • @migueldeicaza @migueldeicaza on x
    @chucker I have yet to service the phones the kids are using, which are an iPhone X, an iPhone 7, and an iPhone 6S.
  • @dcseifert Dan Seifert on x
    i appreciate this article's overall point and what it's saying about how poorly supporting phones is irresponsible on the manufacturers, but it falls short explaining _why_ the Pixel 6 is the first Google phone to have more than three years of support https://www.vice.com/...
  • @dcseifert Dan Seifert on x
    why does this matter to anyone? because if you're buying a phone and want better support, knowing why one phone gets it and another doesn't helps inform your purchasing decision. Apple makes its own chips, hence longer support! Google does now too, same deal.
  • @dcseifert Dan Seifert on x
    the core issue is that the Pixel 3 uses a Qualcomm chip and Qualcomm, not Google, decides when to stop supporting its processors. the Pixel 6 doesn't use a Qualcomm chip, hence Google can provide longer support.
  • @jsrailton John Scott-Railton on x
    @RFPhotog ... Concrete example: an iPhone 6s (2015) that got an update to iOS 15 became secure against one of the most sophisticated threats we tracked recently. Also, globally, most people can't afford a new phone every 2-3 years.
  • @migueldeicaza @migueldeicaza on x
    Today's offerings: Pixel 6 Pro, $899: $300/year iPhone 13Pro, $999: $166/year 513 GB models: Pixel6 Pro, $1099: $366/year iPhone 13Pro, $1299: $216/year iPhone is 1.6x faster
  • @pikhq @pikhq on x
    the really sad thing is, this is typical of the android ecosystem. if you want a phone that gets security updates a long time (that is, a phone that you won't _literally have to_ replace after 2 or 3 years), you have to get an iPhone https://twitter.com/...
  • @gael_duval @gael_duval on x
    “Google Is Forcing Me to Dump a Perfectly Good Phone” The good news now: you can install /e/ OS on your device! With those benefits: 1- sustainability 2- you don't send your data to Google anymore #mydataisMYdata #privacy https://www.vice.com/... via @motherboard @VICE
  • @lorenzofb Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai on x
    Google said: “we find that three years of security and OS updates still provides users with a great experience for their device.” This is an incredible statement given that Apple still supports the iPhone 6S, released in...* checks notes *... 2015. https://www.vice.com/...
  • @lorenzofb Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai on x
    Years ago, I gave up on Android because it didn't get frequent security updates. It's 2022 and it's still happening, even to Google-made phones like the Pixel. So one of my collegues is also saying “Goodbye, Android.” https://www.vice.com/...
  • @brandonphilips Brandon Philips on x
    As the “computer person” in my family it is embarrassing to have to tell folks who have owned their phone a little over 2 years they need to upgrade. Maybe Google expects folks not to pay attention to this stuff? I feel most people have a trusted advisor who does pay attention. h…
  • @reneritchie Rene Ritchie on x
    Two of the things I've always strived to address in my reviews is up-front-cost vs. total cost of ownership/resale and “this chipset scrolls fine now” vs. “this chipset has headroom for 5+ years of updates” Cost isn't value and specs aren't experience absent mainstream context ht…
  • @brandonphilips Brandon Philips on x
    I bought a Pixel 3 in 2018 and now in about 3 years Pixel 3 has lost security updates. For all of the talk of net zero corporate emissions @Google need to do better by it's hardware users on ChromeOS and Android. https://twitter.com/...
  • @dangoodin001 Dan Goodin on x
    @Google John has now updated his tweet to note newest Pixels get 5 years of updates. That's better but still not as good as what Apple offers. https://twitter.com/...
  • @motherboard @motherboard on x
    Despite being just three years old, no Pixel 3 will ever receive another official security update https://www.vice.com/...
  • @mpavictoria @mpavictoria on x
    Look I know Apple has huge issues but at least they usually support their products for a decent length of time. My current iPhone is over 3 years old and still going strong https://twitter.com/...
  • @blakereid Blake E. Reid on x
    This should be grounds for a Section 5 unfairness claim and if it isn't, it's a pretty good case study for building cybersecurity legislation https://twitter.com/...
  • @jason_koebler Jason Koebler on x
    google says 3 years is max lifespan for the Pixel 3 which is pathetic https://www.vice.com/...