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• @jack Jack⚡️ on x

  I'm officially banned from web3 https://twitter.com/...

• @jack Jack⚡️ on x

  @elonmusk It's somewhere between a and z

• @jack Jack⚡️ on x

  this mission statement has always felt so...dark https://twitter.com/...

• @jack Jack⚡️ on x

  @rahilla ... I'm not anti ETH. I'm anti-centralized, VC-owned, single point of failure, and corporate controlled lies. If your goal is anti establishment, I promise you it isn't ethereum. Don't believe or trust me! Just look at the fundamentals.

• @loganbartlett Logan Bartlett on x

  VCs “interested” in web3 https://twitter.com/...

• @qwqiao @qwqiao on x

  Big tech like Twitter have done more harm to the society than all VCs in the world combined in terms of invading privacy, eroding free speech, and centralizing power. The only reason why I'm still on this site is because there's no decentralized alternative and I'm ashamed of it.

• @jack Jack⚡️ on x

  “we invest in software eating the world” *web

• @micsolana Mike Solana on x

  the bitcoin / web3 feud is stressing me out can everyone please just calm down, damn it's christmas

• @loganbartlett Logan Bartlett on x

  If @jack's not careful he's never going to be able to work at a16z

• @jack Jack⚡️ on x

  @loganbartlett https://twitter.com/...

• @tyler Tyler Winklevoss on x

  I will not be unfollowing @jack regardless of any difference of opinion we may have. He is an incredible entrepreneur and even more incredible human being. The world needs more Jacks. 🤗 https://twitter.com/...

• @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x

  This is the most I've been entertained by tech twitter in years. 😂 😆 🤣 https://twitter.com/...

• @nic__carter @nic__carter on x

  Decentralised file storage and decentralised DNS do exist now so we have made progress. But these aren't easy to use. There's a long way to go in terms of building tools for users to interact online without relying on Silicon Valley monoculture busybody intermediaries

• @nic__carter @nic__carter on x

  An internet where users run their own servers, have genuine digital property rights, have seamless internet native payments, and don't have to register with a 3rd party just to use a chat app is a much better internet than the one we have today.

• @nnnnicholas Nnnnicholas.Eth⛱👘 on x

  if u think everyone in web3 has a16z money (or vc in general) its because you are stuck in a sv filter bubble. web3 has been able to fund projects without vc deals for many months if not years.

• @ericnode Eric Anziani on x

  Web2 owners trying to block Web3 advancement, claiming it is owned by VCs is really ironic and misguided. We should focus our collective energy on building the infrastructure that allows the value to be better shared between creators, builders and users 🤝

• @billym2k Shibetoshi Nakamoto on x

  hey VCs i made a web3 thing 8 years ago can you give me money thanks

• @anildash Anil Dash on x

  Tech (and finance) media should really ask themselves why it matters more to them that Jack Dorsey echoes a criticism that countless others have said before, for years, at much greater personal risk. Reality isn't contingent on what tech tycoons validate.

• @loopifyyy @loopifyyy on x

  .@jack has been interacting with a lot of people recently so I'd like to say it's not just him coping. He has a point... to some degree. But, in the midst of the centralised protocols in the space, there are also decentralised protocols that are possibly only due to Ethereum.

• @loopifyyy @loopifyyy on x

  The whole point of something being decentralised is that you can't stop these VCs coming in. If you could, it wouldn't be decentralised. It's hard to see if you look at Bitcoin but it's 2 different things. The deeper you look into Web3, you'll realise. https://twitter.com/...

• @iamdcinvestor Dcinvestor.Eth on x

  he's painted himself so far into a corner that there's no getting out of it. no point in trying to change his mind with posture like this good luck to you, jack the *decentralized* web3 will be built without you. and in 5 years, your journey will leave you rambling & nowhere http…

• @jeffseibert Jeff Seibert on x

  While I hold some of both, it's insanely obvious that the future of crypto is neither ETH nor BTC. Both are fundamentally flawed and have failed to evolve. Both are more centralized than you imagine. So, what's next? What isn't? https://twitter.com/...

• @pt Parker on x

  If I were in an community that has raised tens of billions of dollars and believed the would desperately the would needed a better microblog app but couldn't build one in a decade with tens of billions of dollars, I would also be ashamed. https://twitter.com/...

• @jack Jack⚡️ on x

  From a16z website: “We aim to connect entrepreneurs, investors, executives, engineers, academics, industry experts, and others in the technology ecosystem through open and decentralized blocking of Twitter accounts.” https://twitter.com/...

• @mdudas Mike Daodas on x

  unequivocally yes the @a16z policy contributions alone have helped move web3 and crypto forward significantly https://twitter.com/...

• @mdudas Mike Daodas on x

  pretty clear that @square and @cashapp have chosen to be a #bitcoin shop for good that's probably fine given the plethora of alternatives great opportunity for everyone else building the interfaces and bridges to web3 https://twitter.com/...

• @notgrubles Grublés on x

  People truly interested in a different more decentralized web, all without stupid premined tokens that line rich VC's pockets. https://www.vice.com/...

• @djrhetorik Rhêtorík.Eth on x

  in Web3, is a project's success brand adoption, or is it unique users/holders? is it VCs with seemingly unlimited capital throwing cash at every idea until something sticks, or is it thousands of everyday people throwing half their paychecks into projects they believe in?

• @ldrogen Leigh Drogen on x

  I'm the furthest thing from a VC fanboy, but jesus christ bet against A16Z and Union Square at your peril, that's a losing trade in the aggregate all day every day There's no room for this socialist we hate VCs nonsense I thought crypto people were uber libertarian capitalist?

• @thestalwart Joe Weisenthal on x

  What I find interesting about this crypto infighting is this latent, capital-skeptic sentiment that's emerging on all sides. Lots of people intuitively distrusting finance, investors and forth. https://twitter.com/...

• @caseynewton Casey Newton on x

  @arctictony alt: minting pmarca blocks as NFTs that are required for entry into an exclusive Discord community of crypto heretics

• @cdixon Cdixon Eth on x

  the problem is the model (*not* the people). The incentives in web2 are to run the attract-extract playbook. (from https://t.co/...) https://twitter.com/...

• @jason @jason on x

  Jack after dark starting early!!! Go @jack go! https://twitter.com/...

• @nbashaw Nathan Baschez on x

  Like, I have no idea what I said or did! I was the first employee at one of his portfolio companies, this fall I wrote an essay that was published in his firm's publication, and I am polite and civil probably to a fault And yet... https://twitter.com/...

• @djrhetorik Rhêtorík.Eth on x

  I think the intention of @jack is to snap people out of their ‘community’ echo chamber and help them see what's actually happening people are measuring the success of Web3 within Web2 parameters - corporate adoption, VC funding, etc. - when that is NOT the ethos of the space

• @jimmysong Jimmy Song on x

  I expect Web3 will be rebranded soon. @jack has destroyed that narrative. In 6 months everyone at a16z will act like it doesn't exist. The lesson as always, VCs have something to sell you, they don't do anything from the goodness of their hearts.

• @jgopikrishnan70 J Gopikrishnan on x

  Cool Jack ...when you were Twitter Head - you banned outgoing US President Trump from Twitter ..then why cry when you are banned by some nuts? 😎 https://twitter.com/...

• @karaswisher Kara Swisher on x

  Who said techies have no sense of humor? And I am here for it. https://twitter.com/...

• @arctictony Tony Haile on x

  Bad feature idea: add the date someone blocked you so that we can brag about who pmarca blocked first https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @antoniogm Antonio García Martínez on x

  Trying to make sense of this BTC/Web3/Jack civil war all day via various conversations, and now convinced that in some distant crypto-transhumanist future, this will be like the Sunni/Shia split in Islam, we just happen to be living through it.

• @rjcc Richard Lawler on x

  At least we can still go on Clubhouse and hear a16z founders get interviewed by a16z general partners and take occasional questions from future a16z employees https://twitter.com/...

• @shortformernie Ernie Smith on x

  There are people who haven't joined Twitter yet who have been blocked by Marc Andreessen already https://twitter.com/...

• @mr_james_c @mr_james_c on x

  Lots of people watching the @Jack vs @a16z handbags seem to have conveniently forgotten relevant backstory. Such as @Twitter directly copied @Clubhouse. Or that ever since the founding of Twitter, Jack has disliked VCs. This is way bigger than BTC vs Web3.

• @tomgara Tom Gara on x

  Marc Andreessen giving up on actual tweeting but getting really into blocking is an all-time great Twitter bit. Telling an entire story entirely by who you block, and that story reaching large numbers of people: the man is absolutely sui generis.

• @epro Emil Protalinski on x

  Marc Andreessen blocked me too. Blocking @jack for the attention/discussion/headlines is one thing, but I can't imagine him manually taking the time to target me. I think he's filtering with a script or using an automated blocking tool. https://twitter.com/...

• @cdixon Cdixon Eth on x

  28 years into the modern commercial web. Tens of thousands of projects and startups funded in web1/web2 model. Time to try something new. https://twitter.com/...

• @levie Aaron Levie on x

  @cdixon ❤️ all philosophy debates. The web is not broken. You primarily point to flaws of Twitter, Facebook & Google. That is not the web. Those are some successful sites. We also have Airbnb, Spotify, Netflix, Shopify, Zillow, Slack, Airtable, Figma, and millions more. It's work…

• @farokh Farokh.ethᵍᵐ on x

  Yo @Jack I promise if you look outside of your bubble of rich dudes you'll see that there are creators actually building web3 and a whole revolution in the form of digital renaissance. Come say hi or listen in on our conversations, the NFT space is filled with geniuses.

• @slightlylate Alex Russell on x

  Anyone remember when a16z was an interesting alternative to the other sandhill goon squads? Been a minute. https://www.theverge.com/...

• @johnbattelle John Battelle on x

  Damn Jack really has an @a16z bug up his ass lately. I mean, yes, “Eating the world” is super Dr. Evil level shit, but ... why now? https://twitter.com/...

• @mdudas Mike Daodas on x

  ethereum, the core infrastructure of web3, was passed on by nearly every vc in the world and raised funds from the public period, end of story

• @thestalwart Joe Weisenthal on x

  The timing coincidental, but @jack's anti Web3, anti A16z rampage comes just after @cdixon told me he expected to be off Twitter in 2 years. But I do think at this point, @Jack's allegiance is more to Bitcoin than it is to twitter. https://twitter.com/...

• @levie Aaron Levie on x

  @jack Web3 solves this

• @loganbartlett Logan Bartlett on x

  My future son: dad, where were you the day Marc blocked Jack?

• @buttcoin @buttcoin on x

  honestly hard to decide whether netscape 4 or twitter did more harm to the internet in general but at least everyone involved in both are still giant babies. https://twitter.com/...

• @jack Jack⚡️ on x

  @samkazemian ... You're missing all the points. I'm telling you I've learned from the issues taking on VCs creates. Block *had* help from VCs yes. But ones that know their place.

• @jack Jack⚡️ on x

  You don't own “web3.” The VCs and their LPs do. It will never escape their incentives. It's ultimately a centralized entity with a different label. Know what you're getting into...

• @jack Jack⚡️ on x

  The VCs are the problem *not the people

• @micsolana Mike Solana on x

  ffs hundreds of millions of small businesses using fb tools. over half of amazon products come from small / medium-sized businesses. ride-sharing. home-sharing. an entire new media ecosystem. the list is endless. we don't need to nuke reality for the new thing to also be cool. ht…

• @cobie @cobie on x

  I think ICO era was much fairer than current web3, which mirrors web2 incentive structures. Current founders' need for balancing reg risk w execution velocity means they raise privately from VCs & retail is late, similarly to web2. ICO era gave fairer terms to all but more risk.

• @cobie @cobie on x

  I know hundreds of normal people financially free thanks to web3. Not VCs. Not founders. Just people that farmed airdrops and bought some tokens. Don't know anyone that is financially free thanks to web2 except founding teams and financiers.

• @tyler Tyler Winklevoss on x

  Oh the irony of the web3 debate raging on a web2 platform. Reminder: you don't own or control the tweets that you are tweeting. I support any technology that has a chance at changing this.

• @alephile Tomiwa on x

  Almost no Nigerian enjoyed the VC tech boom (Google, Facebook IPOs). Random middle class Nigerians got thousands of dollars in ENS tokens because they valued ENS names and were early adopters. Web 3's economic incentives are different! https://twitter.com/...

• @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x

  I can't wait to see examples of web3 apps supporting millions of new jobs and businesses instead of trotting out examples of people getting in early on a token then getting rich when others FOMO in. Until then, we're celebrating zero sum transfers of income not new value created …

• @asvanevik Alex Svanevik on x

  Blessed to be on this community-owned website. https://twitter.com/...

• @levie Aaron Levie on x

  How about the future of the web is just: * more interoperability * more open standards & new protocols * richer, more immersive apps * multiplayer everything * more APIs to leverage * more open source contribution * more monetization options * more voice, video, and media

• @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x

  The misguided rhetoric of web3 is that the purpose of projects and companies is to enrich insiders. So web3 is better than Web 2.0 because the circle of insiders is expanded to include early adopters. This is a bleak and zero sum view of the world encouraged by VC culture.

• @alex_danco Alex Danco on x

  Web3 kings of A16Z Bring us gifts of rare NFTs Holding tokens, quite outspoken Yet I can't see their tweets

• @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x

  The repeated mantra of web3 is that it's egalitarian because earlier adopters get get shares (tokens) but in traditional startups only insiders do. The incentive of a Facebook or Google is to build useful products that lots of people use. For web3, it's getting tokens pre-FOMO. h…

• @zachweinberg @zachweinberg on x

  @cdixon Technically with most crypto startups, it's: first you sell tokens then speculators mark them up 👈 we are here then you buy a giant mansion in the Bahamas then people like me fight you then you search for use cases beyond speculation then some tiny subset of the ideas win

• @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x

  Selling shares is a means to an end, funding & motivating employees building world changing software. Web3 people are enamored with tokens as a faster way to mint shares and get to financial liquidity, independent of the software's impact. That's why VCs love it. Skip to the end

• @malwaretechblog Marcus Hutchins on x

  Honestly loving the new Jack. The cryptocurrency community went from “giving control back to the people” to just worshipping a bunch of douchebro VCs whilst they get fleece everyone under the guise of “web3”. https://twitter.com/...

• @mattysino Matthew Graham on x

  so who wants to tell Jack the percentage of bitcoin supply owned by whales https://twitter.com/...

• @jack Jack⚡️ on x

  @samkazemian ... I care only about decentralized, secure, private foundations without single points of failure. And I'm focused on that.

• @petermccormack @petermccormack on x

  Slow down @jack, you'll be banned from Twitter next https://twitter.com/...

• @maxkeiser @maxkeiser on x

  Join the club! https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @karaswisher Kara Swisher on x

  Welcome to the other BLOCK chain @jack — some of us have been living here a while already. (That said, we all use this feature you made, so there's that.) https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @samecwilliams Sam Williams on x

  The problem is not VCs or ‘the people’. It is the universal, inevitable corruption of vision that emerges in web2 companies. Companies exist simply and distinctly to make money for their shareholders. The solution is simple. Protocols: immutable, incorruptible services. https://t…

• @tuurdemeester Tuur Demeester on x

  Venture Capital is crucial to any healthy society and one of the bedrocks of capitalism. However, modern, hype driven, growth obsessed, exit focused attention deficit Venture Capital is an economic sarcoma caused by chronic inflationism. https://twitter.com/...

• @prestonjbyrne Preston Byrne on x

  First they ignore you Then they laugh at you Then you quote Gandhi Then you get rekt by Jack Dorsey

• @tyler Tyler Winklevoss on x

  Brought to you by web3 https://twitter.com/...

• @nischalshetty Nischal on x

  I started my first startup by building on top of Twitter, FB and Insta APIs (they invited us to build on their APIs) When these platforms grew & wanted to monetise, each of these platforms REVOKED API access No VC or founder can do that to another developer on Web3 ✌️ #WEB3 https…

• @benedictevans Benedict Evans on x

  Twitter arguments about what web3 & crypto might be, the ways the internet evolved in the past, and how to think about how new technologies evolve, are all very interesting... but sometimes feel like displacement from the scarcity of any actual fucking products to argue about.

• @levie Aaron Levie on x

  Oh the irony of listening to someone who's actually built a platform. https://twitter.com/...

• @cobie @cobie on x

  But still not possible to ignore that regular people could become millionaires this year by doing nothing except using new products and receiving airdrops. No investment required, just using new things. Users were rewarded with ownership for being users.

• @cobie @cobie on x

  Web3 gives us the tools to build a new way. The state attempts to keep the balance of power the same as it has always been. The SEC is a lobbying firm for VCs; fighting for privatising profits and maintaining the house edge against retail participants.

• @cobie @cobie on x

  Web2 shovels advertisements down the throats of regular people in exchange for storing their photos & private messages. They take $100 per active user from ppl selling whatever and you get fuck all. They sell private fundraising to VCs for a decade before you can own any.

• @matthuang Matt Huang on x

  Raise your hand if you like both Web2 and Web3

• @timgriffin77 Tim Griffin on x

  I dont have a huge following, but if I can impart some advice to first time founders ... don't let VC hype sway you from building what you believe in. Web3 may be hot right now, but there are so many industries where even basic software can have an outsized impact.

• @0xdoug Doug Colkitt on x

  1/ Been thinking a lot about the relationship between web2 and web3. Feels a lot like the first vs. second industrial revolutions. The second industrial revolution wasn't successful because it rejected the first. It was a force multiplier on stacked *on top* of the first https://…

• @samkazemian Sam Kazemian on x

  Irony of @jack's web3=VC comment is projects feel coerced to sell to VCs out of SEC fear of releasing tokens publicly before decentralization. Then maxi messiah Saylor shouts for more regulation on all non-BTC tokens everyday while Jack piles the web3=VC hate from the back. Sad!

• @joemccann J◎e McCann on x

  If you own any tokens in any network you are a VC. Congratulations on your promotion.

• @sam_l_shead Sam Shead on x

  Fun to watch @jack unfollowing people promoting Web3 and any crypto that isn't bitcoin https://twitter.com/...

• @bigblackjacobin Edward Ongweso Jr on x

  The capitalists are the problem (but especially the venture capitalists) https://twitter.com/...

• @pt Parker on x

  Web3 is a very dark view of the future web. The web is an abundant, free & open information network nobody owns. Its self-anointed successor is a pay-to-play network controlled by token shareholders enforcing artificial scarcity. So I'm long the web of abundance. Early days.