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• @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x

  Apple filed a peel [Picture of Fortnite's Peely the banana]

• @markgurman Mark Gurman on x

  Story now on @theterminal: Apple has filed for an appeal and a stay in the ruling in the trial with Epic Games, potentially delaying the need to make court-enforced App Store changes by at least a year.

• @kifleswing Kif on x

  “Developers ... have been resubmitting or replying to the App Review team to ask how the guidelines are changing ... Their communications, some of which point to news articles, show substantial confusion about the injunction's terms.”

• @stephentotilo Stephen Totilo on x

  Apple appealing decision it largely won against Epic. Twists knife by saying an injunction blocking judge's requirement to let apps circumvent app store fees wouldn't hurt Epic...because it has legally blocked Epic from returning Fortnite to the app store https://www.axios.com/..…

• @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x

  But seriously guys buttons are really dangerous, as Apple explains. Some buttons are big and red. Some buttons launch nuclear missiles. If software is allowed to include buttons, they could maybe cause iPhones to explode and kill you or, worse, void your warranty. https://twitter…

• @lapcatsoftware Jeff Johnson on x

  @tapbot_paul Not sure Apple execs listen to advice. Honestly they should have cut Epic a special deal from the start like they have with other companies, and avoid this whole thing altogether. Hubris.

• @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x

  @alithechill We don't know why Apple banned our entire account, blocking Epic from updating Fortnite for Mac. We don't know if Apple even knew they were doing that when they did it. It's a big mystery.

• @keleftheriou Kosta Eleftheriou on x

  Millions are already happily transacting outside the App Store for so-called “Reader” apps like Netflix. Apple now says extending this to other apps would “require substantial engineering and other changes to the App Store, to App Review and its tools” Disingenuous at best.

• @reckless Nilay Patel on x

  The judge thinks Apple insulates itself from price competition and wrote an order designed to create it. That's what Apple is appealing here. It was always obvious that they would, because Apple does not want price competition.

• @alithechill @alithechill on x

  @TimSweeneyEpic question mr sweeney, fortnite on MacOS always had the direct payment method. so why did apple ban you guys from mac anyway?

• @joshua_sisco Josh Sisco on x

  If Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers declines to put her ruling on hold, Apple can ask the same of the Ninth Circuit. If the Ninth Circuit says yes, its a good indication, but not a guarantee, that Apple could prevail on appeal

• @lapcatsoftware Jeff Johnson on x

  Both sides appealing is pretty weird. Though the judge did disagree with the market definition presented by both sides, so I guess it makes sense. https://twitter.com/...

• @nickstatt Nick Statt on x

  If you're wondering why devs didn't rush to sidestep the App Store after the Epic ruling, it's bc Apple had a deadline to abide by the decision. Now it wants to delay that. It's also planning on appealing, so the fight goes on. @BenBrodyDC has the story. https://www.protocol.com/…

• @kellen_browning Kellen Browning on x

  Some Apple-Epic news — Apple just filed an appeal of the judge's Sept. ruling that ordered it to let developers steer customers outside the App Store. Apple also requested a stay of injunction to avoid having to make any changes until after appeal. https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @stroughtonsmith Steve Troughton-Smith on x

  Perhaps Apple doesn't think they won this after all 😝 https://twitter.com/...

• @samifathi_ Sami Fathi on x

  A smart move by Apple. Yes, Apple's risking getting a harsher ruling the 2nd time around, but the implications of the first ruling are far more complex than simply adding links to apps. There's an entire economic and security side to it that needs more time to be understood. http…

• @keleftheriou Kosta Eleftheriou on x

  All these words for Apple to tell us the obvious: that external payments won't be exactly like IAP. We get it, Apple. The whole point is to give users a choice. Those who want, can stick with IAP. https://twitter.com/...

• @tapbot_paul Paul Haddad on x

  @lapcatsoftware The other side was appealing anyways, doesn't hurt to appeal and try to delay any forced changes.

• @tapbot_paul Paul Haddad on x

  @lapcatsoftware I am not enough of an internet lawyer to know if things actually work that way or not. I considered the same, but guessing if it was the case Apple's lawyers would probably have advised against it. Or who knows maybe they wanted to get more billable hours.

• @reckless Nilay Patel on x

  Told you so https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @patrickmcgee_ Patrick McGee on x

  *breaking* Apple had called the Apple-Epic verdict “a resounding victory.” Today it appealed. Asked for Court to postpone injunction that would open up App Store to rival payments On @FT

• @keleftheriou Kosta Eleftheriou on x

  Tim Cook after the Epic ruling: “I think the ruling will be very good to try to put some of the discussions to rest on the App Store. [...]. I'm sort of looking forward to moving forward now” Also Tim Cook: https://twitter.com/...

• @stevekovach Steve Kovach on x

  Apple went through a lot of trouble to make the judge's ruling sound like a win. Now they're appealing. (Announced at 7pm on a Friday to boot.) https://twitter.com/...

• @zhugeex Daniel Ahmad on x

  Not a surprise to see this, even if Apple did win 9 of the 10 counts. We also told clients this was likely to happen The anti-steering aspect doesn't go as far as Epic wants, but companies like Paddle have shown how Apple would see a material negative impact with their method htt…