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• @histoftech Mar Hicks on x

  “Gebru had disagreed, claiming she could nudge things, just a little, toward a more beneficial path. “I kept on arguing with her,” Gebru says. Now, she says, she concedes the point.”😐

• @histoftech Mar Hicks on x

  This (long) article is a great explainer on how the nascent field of AI ethics got overrun by corporate money and power—and how, despite all the PR about responsible and ethical tech, and diversity and inclusion, it's just been business as usual at Google https://www.wired.com/..…

• @drewharwell Drew Harwell on x

  “I'm not worried about machines taking over the world, I'm worried about groupthink, insularity and arrogance” in the people training them https://www.wired.com/...

• @laurengoode Lauren Goode on x

  “She's been thinking back to conversations she'd had with a friend who warned her not to join Google, saying it was harmful to women and impossible to change. Gebru had disagreed...Now, she says, she concedes the point.” A must-read feature by @tsimonite https://www.wired.com/...

• @lindakinstler Linda Kinstler on x

  “We need more support for external work so that the choice is not ‘Do I get paid by the DOD or by Google?’” Excellent piece on @timnitGebru's exit from Google by @tsimonite: https://www.wired.com/...

• @mmitchell_ai MMitchell on x

  5/ The Ethical AI team's primary job was not to conduct research; that was one of our jobs. Our former employer appreciates both research and product impact from research teams. And so, for product impact, I particularly focused on operationalization, as did some of the team.

• @upfromthecracks @upfromthecracks on x

  Notably (imho surprisingly) substantive essay that provides a lot of the important context that eluded previous reporting https://www.wired.com/...

• @timnitgebru Timnit Gebru on x

  6/ ""Timnit's behavior was very far outside the norm," Thats what happens when the company hires ONE Black woman to be a research scientist ever and can't even deal with that.

• @mmitchell_ai MMitchell on x

  1/ I didn't “endure” rounds of meetings with lawyers abt my first paper. I eagerly sought them out. My role was always hand-in-hand with my former employer, including deeply appreciating, & working on, the tensions lawyers highlighted. I wanted to learn from them. (And still do.)

• @timnitgebru Timnit Gebru on x

  4/ Its interesting to see Google's responses and STILL learn something new. NOW they're saying: “One reason managers were not more open in explaining their feedback to Gebru, according to Google, was that they feared she would spread it around inside the company.” Yea @JeffDean?

• @mmitchell_ai MMitchell on x

  I continue to appreciate journalists [trying to] tell the real story of how and why Google did this to us. @tsimonite has written a more in-depth one. I won't speak for @timnitGebru , but I should clarify a few things before this narrative permeates... https://www.wired.com/...

• @laurakalbag Laura Kalbag on x

  “There was this hope that some level of self-regulation could have happened at these tech companies,' Raji says. 'Everyone's now aware that the true accountability needs to come from the outside...'” https://www.wired.com/...

• @timnitgebru Timnit Gebru on x

  1/ Thank you @tsimonite for working on this story since December. I'm not sure how many people have read my PhD thesis but you're definitely one of the few. I know this story was a huge undertaking & done with a lot of research so I won't nitpick much. https://www.wired.com/...