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Internal Amazon documents show Amazon was aware of the practice of employees using pee bottles, identifying it as a “Tier 1” infraction that can lead to firing

In anticipation of Sen. Bernie Sanders's scheduled trip to Bessemer, Alabama, to support the unionization drive …

The Intercept Ken Klippenstein

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  • @_cingraham Christopher Ingraham on x
    Incredible email from an Amazon logistics manager. “This is the 3rd occasion in the last 2 months when bags have been returned to station with poop inside.” https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @kateconger O...K on x
    seems like that Amazon tweet wasn't the best idea https://theintercept.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @doctorow Cory Doctorow on x
    There's always a leaked memo. https://theintercept.com/... https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @ingridlunden Ingrid on x
    That Amazon knew and then gaslit ppl over these accusations makes an already awful situation even worse. The circumstances are atrocious. https://twitter.com/...
  • @karengeier @karengeier on x
    I feel like if someone at my job discovered one jar of urine we'd have to have an all hands meeting about it and they would probably call in a counselor https://twitter.com/...
  • @kenklippenstein Ken Klippenstein on x
    Email from Amazon logistics manager: “This evening, an associate discovered human feces in an Amazon bag that was returned to the station by a driver. This is the 3rd occasion in the last 2 months when bags have been returned to the station with poop...” https://theintercept.com/…
  • @liamyoung Liam Young on x
    Amazing work as always from detective @kenklippenstein. Hours after Amazon PR deny that their workers ever have to degradingly piss in bottles, he comes up with Amazon's own receipts showing that their workers do have to degradingly piss in bottles: https://theintercept.com/...
  • @bernieupstateny @bernieupstateny on x
    “None of us should have to deal with these kinds of messes” say the people who force drivers to create & deal with these messes. Where are drivers supposed to urinate & defecate? Then where are they to dispose of that stuff? In a trash can? Seems like that would spread diseases? …
  • @nausjcaa Nausicaa Renner on x
    They even made it a fireable offense! https://twitter.com/...
  • @joshsternberg Josh Sternberg on x
    Amazon brought a spoon to a knife fight, and @kenklippenstein shows us how sharp knives are. Also, great header image game. https://theintercept.com/...
  • @mims Christopher Mims on x
    Amazon #peegate is just such a perfect, perfect encapsulation of how this company operates and (spoiler alert) what I learned about how it operates in the course of researching my book. I can't resist, here's a brief thread. 🧵 https://twitter.com/...
  • @everywhereist Geraldine on x
    They are so aware of this that if you get caught doing it, you don't get fired, you just get written up. https://twitter.com/...
  • @thekarami Arash on x
    she's more irritated than concerned that workers are pooping in bags https://twitter.com/...
  • @dakami Dan Kaminsky on x
    A rather different take: There are no public restrooms and private industry in the states is increasingly locking up the bathrooms. It ain't just the homeless that have nowhere to go. There's a city I will never go to again because of this. Ever. Black zone. https://twitter.com/.…
  • @bobpickard Bob Pickard on x
    There is no doubt that @amazon is a convenient company, but is it a good company? It is a high capability brand, but this makes one wonder about their corporate character. https://twitter.com/...
  • @brandon_mckoy Brandon J. McKoy on x
    This is dystopia personified to me, especially the “by scanning the QR code on the bag we know who had it last” piece. Yet, Amazon execs were denying the mere reality of workers not getting basic breaks to address bio needs just a day or so ago. https://twitter.com/...
  • @kenklippenstein Ken Klippenstein on x
    Amazon management knows its workers urinate in bottles and even defecate in bags in order to save time, internal company documents leaked to me reveal: https://theintercept.com/...
  • @repmarkpocan Rep. Mark Pocan on x
    Paying workers $15/hr doesn't make you a “progressive workplace” when you union-bust & make workers urinate in water bottles. https://twitter.com/...
  • @kenbensinger Ken Bensinger on x
    Amazon claims its workers don't pee in bottles; defenders say it's an urban legend. But these photos sent to me by a former driver for a former @amazon contractor called Synctruck in a California facility suggest strongly otherwise. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @alexnpress Alex Press on x
    my first response to this was to laugh because it's such a ridiculous tweet but honestly, this is infuriating. here are the type of texts Amazon workers send me https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @repmarkpocan Rep. Mark Pocan on x
    Wait, so the company with a well-documented history of poor workplace conditions & union-busting actually knew about its awful workplace conditions and did nothing to help its workers? And here I thought @amazon was a “progressive workplace.” https://twitter.com/...
  • @mikeduncan Mike Duncan on x
    What we really need is some kind of Bill of Consumer Anti-Rights. Things companies simply cannot do in the name of customer service. We've all been brainwashed into holding utterly toxic expectations and this is the result. https://twitter.com/...
  • @people4bernie @people4bernie on x
    “We've noticed an uptick recently of all kinds of unsanitary garbage being left inside bags: used masks, gloves, bottles of urine” internal @amazon email #BAmazonUnion https://theintercept.com/...
  • @attackerman Spencer Ackerman on x
    “Halie Marie Brown, a 26-year old...who worked as a delivery driver for an Amazon delivery contractor...told The Intercept that the practice “happens because we are literally implicitly forced to do so, otherwise we will end up losing our jobs for too many ‘undelivered packages’”…
  • @diannananez Dianna M. Nez on x
    If you don't believe this happens in U.S. workplaces: Years ago, I temped at an Arizona factory & saw Latino immigrant workers hold their pee for fear a break would cost them their job. Similarly, my familia feared taking breaks to pee when they picked crops in NorCal farm fields…
  • @rtushnet Rebecca Tushnet on x
    My spouse asked me whether that Amazon denial was a real account lying or a fake account lying https://twitter.com/...
  • @bambooney President Stupid J Moron on x
    why is amazon news tweeting like a gaslighting boyfriend https://twitter.com/...
  • @chimeracoder Aditya Mukerjee on x
    wow they literally have the line “everyone is replaceable”, after explicitly telling people to clean out the urine bottles at the end of the shift. https://twitter.com/...
  • @robzacny Rob Zacny on x
    I believe the peeing in bottles thing. Because it's an established fact. https://www.vice.com/...
  • @juliacarmel__ Julia Salazar on x
    “They give us 30 minutes of paid breaks, but you will not finish your work if you take it, no matter how fast you are.” Amazon's treatment of their workers is horrendous. https://twitter.com/...
  • @ryangrim Ryan Grim on x
    Fact check: https://twitter.com/...
  • @j_bloodworth James Bloodworth on x
    It doesn't really matter but this is not accurate. I reported on Amazon warehouse workers doing it 6 months before that story came out https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @mat Mat Honan on x
    I can imagine nothing more inevitable than this story https://www.vice.com/...
  • @annierpalmer Annie Palmer on x
    In fact, peeing in bottles is so common for Amazon drivers that when the company launched cameras in their delivery vans, workers told me they were concerned they'd have nowhere to pee in private https://www.cnbc.com/...
  • @kenklippenstein Ken Klippenstein on x
    The richest company in human history is tweeting through it https://twitter.com/...
  • @ositanwanevu Osita Nwanevu on x
    https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @nathantankus Nathan Tankus on x
    “Competition ensures a minimum standard of living and working conditions which is why we voluntarily decided to raise our minimum wage rate because of congressional scrutiny. Also I'm going to post through it” https://twitter.com/...
  • @davidklion David Klion on x
    Amazon's “you don't really believe the peeing in bottles thing” tweet is raising a lot of questions already addressed by the tweet https://twitter.com/...
  • @ashleyfeinberg Ashley Feinberg on x
    Uh oh @JayCarney grabbed the keys again https://twitter.com/...
  • @athertonkd Kelsey D. Atherton on x
    my “You don't really believe the peeing in bottles thing, do you?” post has people asking lots of questions already answered by the post https://twitter.com/...
  • @quantian1 Quantian on x
    A question I sometimes wonder is, “how are PR flacks being paid $25k/month so bad at their jobs?” I should start a crisis PR firm that charges a flat $100k to take your phone away and delete your Twitter for a month if you ever appear in the news. https://twitter.com/...
  • @actnormalorelse Lauren on x
    amazon's PR strategy to address deserved criticism for a long time now has been “bitchy replies” and i love it https://twitter.com/...
  • @thhamilton Tom Hamilton on x
    “If our working conditions were poor, nobody would work for us” is a heroic attempt to deny the entire history of work. https://twitter.com/...
  • @willmenaker @willmenaker on x
    I believe it https://twitter.com/...
  • @bigblackjacobin Edward Ongweso Jr on x
    Can someone figure out tomorrow if this tweet increased searches about Amazon workers pissing in bottles meaningfully? Because if it did, then we need to protect this person's job and get them to keep doing it https://twitter.com/...
  • @amandamull Amanda Mull on x
    It's one thing for Amazon to systematically choke to death the American retail and labor markets, but it feels altogether darker that they also insist the general public regards them as benevolent and generous for doing so, and that they are insulted by implications otherwise.
  • @juliacarriew Julia Carrie Wong on x
    What I love about this tweet is that it in no way contains a denial that Amazon workers have to pee in bottles. https://twitter.com/...
  • @arb Amy B on x
    the natural endpoint of sassy brand twitter is amazon sassing a sitting congressman over whether or not their employees get bathroom breaks https://twitter.com/...
  • @nycsouthpaw Southpaw on x
    As an argument, “if that were true, nobody would work for [our monopolist megacorporation]” is about as persuasive as “if that were true, no one would join Scientology in the first place.” https://twitter.com/...
  • @jaynooch Honest Jabe on x
    Gotta say I'd be less likely to believe in the pee bottles if Amazon hadn't produced a commercial with the line “I love working at Amazon, we can pee literally whenever we want!” https://twitter.com/...
  • @tristandross @tristandross on x
    had to double-check i didn't hallucinate the ‘amazon fc ambassador’ scheme, where they had a load of their employees come on here to boast about how they were allowed to use ‘real bathrooms’ and that their depression had nothing to do with amazon and was entireely their own fault…
  • @josephfcox Joseph Cox on x
    Here is Amazon trying to mislead a lawmaker on their working conditions https://twitter.com/...
  • @nathanjrobinson Nathan J Robinson on x
    Amazon brazenly lied to the public by denying stories of workers having to pee in bottles because their quotas don't leave time to find a bathroom. @LaurenKGurley definitively refutes the company by getting PICTURES of the pee bottles. https://www.vice.com/...
  • @bigblackjacobin Edward Ongweso Jr on x
    The fact that Amazon labor conditions force workers to piss in bottles is so widely documented that it's amazing the company mocked a Wisconsin congressman for saying so, especially when we have receipts!! https://www.vice.com/...
  • @libyaliberty Hend Amry on x
    Free PR advice: never put your critics best argument in your mouth. https://twitter.com/...
  • @fshakir Faiz on x
    While we're on the subject, bathroom breaks are a serious concern raised by workers. Listen to Linda, who works at the Bessemer plant, explain. “We want to go to the bathroom!” (Via @GrimKim) https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @rajat_suresh Rajat Suresh on x
    Hello I am a boss for amazon and would like to say we do not force our workers to piss anywhere other than the toilet. All of our workers piss in the toilet. It is normal to work here. Thank you https://twitter.com/...
  • @joshuarolson Josh Olson on x
    If you're seeing the insane tweets from Amazon asserting their decency and progressive practices, here's Alex Press with the actual receipts. https://twitter.com/...
  • @dancanon Dan Canon on x
    I'm an employment lawyer who lives down the road from an Amazon shipping facility. I wish I could tell you the number of calls just like this I've gotten over the years. https://twitter.com/...
  • @jon_eiseman Jon Eiseman on x
    Motherboard has the pee bottle receipts https://www.vice.com/...
  • @josephfcox Joseph Cox on x
    You may have seen Amazon getting very defensive, tweeting “You don't really believe the peeing in bottle thing, do you?” regarding its working conditions. Well, here are the literal pee bottles (Motherboard confirmed the driver's position and employment) https://www.vice.com/...