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Some Black medical professionals who are voluntarily countering misinfo on Clubhouse about COVID-19 and its vaccine say they have been harassed and bullied

- Conspiracies flourish on app including about vaccines and 5G  — 'Hey, I was skeptical too, but here's where I am now' Tweets: @mattyglesias , @williamturton , @williamturton , @ericgeller , @jilliancyork , @mattyglesias , @phil_lewis_ , @jonst0kes , @bostonjoan , @ositanwanevu , @charlesarthur , @ellenhuet , @noupside , @maasalan , @bradstone , @dinabass , @choo_ek , and @slpng_giants Tweets: Matthew Yglesias / @mattyglesias : Not going to dignify this with a link, but the difference between Clubhouse and something like Facebook is that **nothing** can “spread unchecked” on Clubhouse because it's live audio to people who opted-in to the room with no algorithmic promotion to anyone. https://twitter.com/... William Turton / @williamturton : Dozens of Black doctors have taken it upon themselves to dispel Coronavirus misinformation on Clubhouse. Some have been harassed and bullied for doing so: https://www.bloomberg.com/... William Turton / @williamturton : We asked Clubhouse what it is doing to prevent the spread of harmful Coronavirus misinformation on its platform. The company declined to comment. https://www.bloomberg.com/... Eric Geller / @ericgeller : This is such a good story. These people are doing heroic work that they shouldn't have to do. https://twitter.com/... Jillian C. York / @jilliancyork : Here's an idea: How about Clubhouse/Andreesen Horowitz pays these doctors to dispel misinfo? https://twitter.com/... Matthew Yglesias / @mattyglesias : @OsitaNwanevu Well, yes, if you want to say that Clubhouse replicates the basic flaws of human existence that's fine. But I think Twitter and especially Facebook pose a unique kind of danger in terms of the ultra-rapid diffusion of crazy ideas & hate speech. Philip Lewis / @phil_lewis_ : Dozens of Black doctors and medical professionals have taken it upon themselves to combat the myths and misinformation about COVID-19 on Clubhouse “I do my [12 to 14 hour] shift, wash my face, change my clothes and then get on the app.” https://www.bloomberg.com/... @jonst0kes : Not entirely accurate. There's an algorithm that curates your “hallway”, i.e. which rooms you see. So there is some algorithmic promotion/mediation. That said, Vice is trash and this article is trash. https://twitter.com/... Joan Donovan, PhD / @bostonjoan : By any means necessary, Black doctors will fight misinfo, but who will step up and give them what they need (resources, amplification, and services) to ensure they don't get harassed? https://twitter.com/... Osita Nwanevu / @ositanwanevu : @mattyglesias Can't bad information spread unchecked from group to group by voice without the aid of algorithms? Isn't that how things have spread unchecked for the majority of human history? Charles Arthur / @charlesarthur : I wonder what the “false” thing was. Reality: social networks without strong moderation will let misinformation spread faster than accurate data. https://www.bloomberg.com/... https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/... Ellen Huet / @ellenhuet : unexpected part of this story: even after these doctors were harassed or bullied for trying to fight COVID misinformation, they felt that Clubhouse was also an effective platform for changing someone's mind — because hearing someone's voice makes you feel more connected to them https://twitter.com/... Renee DiResta / @noupside : I listened to one of these rooms - Black medical professionals doing an absolutely incredible job explaining the details of the COVID vaccine - one weekend and just loved it. It's such a powerful way to bring audiences with questions together w/experts... https://www.bloomberg.com/... @maasalan : While considerate of problems of moderation on the platform, this is a fascinating case study of Clubhouse facilitating “counter speech” in an effort to fight COVID19 misinfo by medical professionals in this @WilliamTurton piece. 👇 https://twitter.com/... Brad Stone / @bradstone : The medical vigilantes of Clubhouse- about the Black doctors fighting Covid myths, by @WilliamTurton https://www.bloomberg.com/... via @technology Dina Bass / @dinabass : This is a terrific and important story https://twitter.com/... Esther Choo / @choo_ek : “Black people are acting as first responders in the disinformation crisis” - how Black doctors are doing extra work on Clubhouse to battle COVID misinformation and disinformation https://www.bloomberg.com/... @slpng_giants : .@joinClubhouse has no plan for moderation at all. That's because none of these founders think about how their platforms will affect the world, only about how much engagement they can get. We've already seen how this story plays out. App Stores must demand proper moderation. https://twitter.com/... Expand More For Next 2 Unexpand More For Next 2

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Discussion

  • @mattyglesias Matthew Yglesias on x
    Not going to dignify this with a link, but the difference between Clubhouse and something like Facebook is that **nothing** can “spread unchecked” on Clubhouse because it's live audio to people who opted-in to the room with no algorithmic promotion to anyone. https://twitter.com/…
  • @williamturton William Turton on x
    Dozens of Black doctors have taken it upon themselves to dispel Coronavirus misinformation on Clubhouse. Some have been harassed and bullied for doing so: https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @williamturton William Turton on x
    We asked Clubhouse what it is doing to prevent the spread of harmful Coronavirus misinformation on its platform. The company declined to comment. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @ericgeller Eric Geller on x
    This is such a good story. These people are doing heroic work that they shouldn't have to do. https://twitter.com/...
  • @charlesarthur Charles Arthur on x
    I wonder what the “false” thing was. Reality: social networks without strong moderation will let misinformation spread faster than accurate data. https://www.bloomberg.com/... https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @jilliancyork Jillian C. York on x
    Here's an idea: How about Clubhouse/Andreesen Horowitz pays these doctors to dispel misinfo? https://twitter.com/...
  • @ellenhuet Ellen Huet on x
    unexpected part of this story: even after these doctors were harassed or bullied for trying to fight COVID misinformation, they felt that Clubhouse was also an effective platform for changing someone's mind — because hearing someone's voice makes you feel more connected to them h…
  • @mattyglesias Matthew Yglesias on x
    @OsitaNwanevu Well, yes, if you want to say that Clubhouse replicates the basic flaws of human existence that's fine. But I think Twitter and especially Facebook pose a unique kind of danger in terms of the ultra-rapid diffusion of crazy ideas & hate speech.
  • @phil_lewis_ Philip Lewis on x
    Dozens of Black doctors and medical professionals have taken it upon themselves to combat the myths and misinformation about COVID-19 on Clubhouse “I do my [12 to 14 hour] shift, wash my face, change my clothes and then get on the app.” https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @jonst0kes @jonst0kes on x
    Not entirely accurate. There's an algorithm that curates your “hallway”, i.e. which rooms you see. So there is some algorithmic promotion/mediation. That said, Vice is trash and this article is trash. https://twitter.com/...
  • @bostonjoan Joan Donovan, PhD on x
    By any means necessary, Black doctors will fight misinfo, but who will step up and give them what they need (resources, amplification, and services) to ensure they don't get harassed? https://twitter.com/...
  • @ositanwanevu Osita Nwanevu on x
    @mattyglesias Can't bad information spread unchecked from group to group by voice without the aid of algorithms? Isn't that how things have spread unchecked for the majority of human history?
  • @noupside Renee DiResta on x
    I listened to one of these rooms - Black medical professionals doing an absolutely incredible job explaining the details of the COVID vaccine - one weekend and just loved it. It's such a powerful way to bring audiences with questions together w/experts... https://www.bloomberg.co…
  • @maasalan @maasalan on x
    While considerate of problems of moderation on the platform, this is a fascinating case study of Clubhouse facilitating “counter speech” in an effort to fight COVID19 misinfo by medical professionals in this @WilliamTurton piece. 👇 https://twitter.com/...
  • @bradstone Brad Stone on x
    The medical vigilantes of Clubhouse- about the Black doctors fighting Covid myths, by @WilliamTurton https://www.bloomberg.com/... via @technology
  • @dinabass Dina Bass on x
    This is a terrific and important story https://twitter.com/...
  • @choo_ek Esther Choo on x
    “Black people are acting as first responders in the disinformation crisis” - how Black doctors are doing extra work on Clubhouse to battle COVID misinformation and disinformation https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @slpng_giants @slpng_giants on x
    .@joinClubhouse has no plan for moderation at all. That's because none of these founders think about how their platforms will affect the world, only about how much engagement they can get. We've already seen how this story plays out. App Stores must demand proper moderation. http…
  • Vox Sara Morrison on x
    You've been invited to Clubhouse. Your privacy hasn't.
  • @willoremus Will Oremus on x
    I wrote about Clubhouse's unusually aggressive onboarding process, its creative use of your iPhone's contact list, and why its privacy practices might bear some ~looking into~ https://onezero.medium.com/...
  • @jeremyburge Jeremy Burge on x
    I loathe this prompt on Clubhouse and just about any modern social app. A casual tap to share every private contact you know about everyone. There has to be a better way https://onezero.medium.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @kantrowitz Alex Kantrowitz on x
    Clubhouse invites going for $125 on eBay https://twitter.com/...
  • @willoremus Will Oremus on x
    Clubhouse is pressuring users to upload their contacts, prompting them to join welcome rooms with their former bosses and exes, and suggesting they invite their therapists, deceased grand-aunts, and 10-year-old phone cards. https://onezero.medium.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @therealwbtc @therealwbtc on x
    Violating user privacy is bad, yes, but I still don't understand why anyone wants to use this app at all https://twitter.com/...
  • @bzamayo Benjamin Mayo on x
    I always think about how far we have come with privacy .... like the illuminating fact that this permissions dialog didn't exist at all until iOS 6. Any app could just get your entire address book without asking. https://twitter.com/...
  • @willoremus Will Oremus on x
    I asked Clubhouse exactly what data it collects on your contacts, how it uses that data, what data it's storing on people who aren't even on Clubhouse (like your weed dealer who it somehow knows has 83 friends on Clubhouse). The company did not respond. https://onezero.medium.com…
  • @dangillmor Dan Gillmor on x
    Important: If you join Clubhouse and want to invite someone else to join, Clubhouse insists you “share” your contacts first. This is sleazy, IMO. As @WillOremus notes, look out for abuses and unintended consequences. https://twitter.com/...
  • @obrien Chris O'Brien on x
    I hope a venture capital firm invests in building its own massive media operation to drown out these pesky journalists who are asking uncomfortable questions about the products built by its portfolio companies. 🙄 https://www.techmeme.com/...
  • @bzamayo Benjamin Mayo on x
    ... And Apple only implemented it then after pressure in the wake of some scandals and press attention. History lesson: https://www.theverge.com/...
  • @arielbogle Ariel Bogle on x
    Exactly why I DID NOT share my contacts with Clubhouse, and thus am barred from inviting anyone else onto the app. https://twitter.com/...
  • @bzamayo Benjamin Mayo on x
    @_inside IMO Apple should offer a hash-based contact matching API. They do it for CloudKit-based applications but not useful more generally. Yes you can use this to make some web of user profiles but in the absence of it, the status quo is even worse as far as privacy goes.
  • @karissabe Karissa Bell on x
    One of the first things I noticed when I joined Clubhouse was that my “contact” with the most connections was... an old doctors office I haven't visited in 10+ years. Still felt weird about it and this sums up why https://onezero.medium.com/...
  • @melissalyttle Melissa Lyttle on x
    Clubhouse pressures you to upload your phone's contacts — and makes them visible in surprising ways. Yeah, NO, you cannot have access to my contacts. https://onezero.medium.com/...
  • @medium @medium on x
    Çlubhouse nudges you to invite your contacts to the app—and these likely include your real-life friends, business associates, bosses, doctors and people you once went on a bad date with. Granting an app access to your contacts is ethically dicey. https://read.medium.com/N9rnlkq
  • @jpwarren Justin Warren on x
    People who have nothing to hide cannot keep your secrets. Like keeping your personal phone number to themselves. https://twitter.com/...
  • @ozm OneZero on x
    Clubhouse makes your phone's contacts visible in surprising ways. For instance, the app's invite list highlights contacts who you share with other Clubhouse users. This can end up recommending some surprising people and businesses. https://read.medium.com/E2ksuSL
  • @kantrowitz Alex Kantrowitz on x
    Good growth hack tbh https://onezero.medium.com/...
  • @backlon Dieter Bohn on x
    This was a big scandal back in 2012! Apps were pulling your addressbook via unencrypted HTTP get requests. Foursquare was just straight up uploading your whole address book when you created an account! https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @loudmouthman @loudmouthman on x
    a reminder to please remove me from your contacts list if you intend to share you contacts with apps when you join .. https://onezero.medium.com/... especially if you plan to @joinClubhouse incidentally theres no easy Data Protection Officer route for Clubhouse
  • @potch @potch on x
    I absolutely can believe that people are flocking to this to chase clout, but it doesn't mean I'm not grossed out by y'all https://onezero.medium.com/...
  • @rafbuff Rafael Laguna de la Vera on x
    Good explainer why this whole “uploading your address book” is creepy, to say the least: https://onezero.medium.com/... @joinClubhouse #Clubhouse
  • @tfoil2 @tfoil2 on x
    DON'T ALLOW “Granting an app access to your contacts is ethically dicey... Some social networks even use this sort of info to start building secret dossiers on people who don't use the app... At least 2 additional ways Clubhouse appears to take users' contact data further...” htt…
  • @chronic Will Strafach on x
    it's interesting how you can never have a truly private phone number anymore, due to apps like this which vacuum up contact data from your peers https://twitter.com/...
  • @fka_tabs Rusty on x
    Never give an app access to your contacts https://onezero.medium.com/...
  • @jilliancyork Jillian C. York on x
    Pardon me, gotta go see who I share contacts with via Clubhouse. https://onezero.medium.com/...
  • @_inside Guilherme Rambo on x
    It should be the contact's decision to make. Just because my contact is in someone's address book, that shouldn't give them the right to share everything they have on me with just a single tap. https://twitter.com/...
  • @bdeskin Blake Eskin on x
    2 of the first 3 “great potential additions” are former primary care doctors of mine 🤨 How many people will invite their shrink to @joinClubhouse in this icky growth-hacking phase? https://twitter.com/...
  • @pkafka Peter Kafka on x
    @WillOremus Good story. I un-gave CH my contacts as soon as I saw that creepy ranked list.
  • @kantrowitz Alex Kantrowitz on x
    New on @BigTechnology: The Bull Case For Twitter Spaces. *ducks* https://bigtechnology.substack.com/ ...
  • @milenarodban Milena Rodban on x
    Sorta. Rooms have a capacity of 5k, but those popular rooms then spawn overflow rooms where someone plays the audio for people who couldn't get into the main. Rooms are promoted based on who and what topics you follow, but I get a ton of unrelated ones when I open the app. https:…
  • @stinson Matthew Stinson on x
    The scramble to demand gatekeepers in everything oft involves inventing problems for said gatekeepers to solve. https://twitter.com/...
  • @smbrnsn Sam Brunson on x
    Confession: I can't imagine a less interesting way to spend my time than listening to people talk on an app. https://twitter.com/...
  • @modestproposal1 Modest Proposal on x
    “Twitter has another advantage when it comes to recruiting participants for Spaces: An engaged userbase filled with some of the world's most prominent people. When Elon Musk goes on Clubhouse, it's a news story. When he logs onto Twitter, it's Wednesday” 😂https://bigtechnology.su…
  • @jonrussell Jon Russell on x
    The only thing as inevitable as China blocking Clubhouse, which happened this week, was Facebook cloning Clubhouse Et voilà... https://twitter.com/...