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While Facebook touts e2e encryption on WhatsApp, Apple's privacy labels highlight how much user metadata WhatsApp collects compared to iMessage

WhatsApp, the world's leading messenger with 2 billion users sending 100 billion messages each day, popularized secure messaging.

Forbes Zak Doffman

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  • @scottdavis99 Scott Davis on x
    WhatsApp Soundly Beaten By Apple's Stunning New iMessage Update WhatsApp collects the contacts in your phone, commercial data where you use Facebook services, device-based identifiers, your IP address which provides your location...All linked to you. https://www.forbes.com/...
  • @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x
    @karaswisher @tomwarren These three things can be true simultaneously: - Clear disclosure of data practices is good - Overuse of personal data is bad - UX antipattern warfare among tech giants is bad and could grow out of control quickly if not checked
  • @howtaobrowncow Charles Castleberry on x
    Apple's updates to / transparency upsetting / to the Facebook folks. #tinyviolin #DeleteYourFacebook https://www.forbes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @cpottruck Craig Pottruck on x
    @ukzak is clearly getting paid by apple or has a FB grudge. He doesn't actually say what is so great about the update just craps all over WhatsApp. Fails to even mention that the reason WhatsApp is so popular is that it's cross platform. Click-bate. https://www.forbes.com/...
  • @blopeur Benoit Hudzia on x
    Mmmm ... not surprising, but still disturbing ... https://www.forbes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @stroughtonsmith Steve Troughton-Smith on x
    Apple's Privacy Nutrition Labels would be so much more useful if e.g. Screen Time/MDM could enable or disable access to apps based on it
  • @mcbill Bill McBain on x
    Apple's new policy of disclosing to users the data linked to their use of an individual App is a great step in the right direction. It's amazing how exploitive even a basic messaging app might be and how much the “need to know” metadata varies between class leading providers. htt…
  • @bartclaeys Bart Claeys on x
    @UKZak You conveniently ignore the fact that Apple already has all that data iMessage doesn't collect like credit card number, purchase history, diagnostics, location,... on the iOS level... So comparing the “nutritional” cards is not a fair comparison. https://www.forbes.com/...
  • @thechowdery @thechowdery on x
    WhatsApp seemingly not terrible, but holy bananas Facebook Messenger! Interesting app label graphic in this article. https://www.forbes.com/...
  • @stroughtonsmith Steve Troughton-Smith on x
    It's really easy to configure Apple's new privacy label when you don't collect anything in your apps 😄 https://twitter.com/...
  • @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x
    @tomwarren Clear disclosure of data practices is good. This is anything but clear. If Apple designed food labels, they'd have to list many of the ingredients 13 times by introducing 13 different categories of purposes of ingredients. Crazy.
  • @jamesthomson James Thomson on x
    Pretty happy with the data privacy reporting stuff. Dice doesn't connect to the internet, so that gets a big tick. PCalc does send app version and OS version / language as part of downloading the currency rates, which, best as I could categorise, is “diagnostics, not linked”. htt…
  • @bradmillscan @bradmillscan on x
    Use signal. Protect privacy. https://www.forbes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @jcallico Javi on x
    Do a messaging app really needs all this data/metadata? I stopped using WhatsApp years ago, don't regret it but most of my friends still use it, so there is the tradeoff of stopping been in contact with many of your friends/acquittances. https://www.forbes.com/... https://twitter…