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Facebook told employees it deleted an event page for Kenosha Guard but internal docs show it was deleted by the page admin; Facebook apologizes for the error

and only after two people were killed. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ ... Shannon McGregor, PhD / @shannimcg : THIS is why transparency around decision making in moderation is so important. This is an astounding case https://twitter.com/... @rmac18 : One of the themes from this piece is that Facebook can't get a handle on an internal communications platform w/ more than 50,000 workers. Now replicate those polarizing and amplifying dynamics on a platform w/ 2.7 bil users and you start to see the issue. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ ... Craig Silverman / @craigsilverman : When we asked Facebook about the event page's removal, the company admitted the public information was incorrect and apologized. https://twitter.com/... @rmac18 : The Kenosha shooting also split employees internally. Some posted support for police, leading colleagues to accuse them of deliberately trolling. One employee asked why FB had taken down accounts of the gunman when he hadn't been found guilty in court. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ ... @rmac18 : .@CraigSilverman and I talked to Facebook users who thought they were doing the right thing by reporting the militia event page and violent comments BEFORE the Kenosha shooting. Their reports all came back the same: The event was not in violation of Facebook's policies. Christopher Miller / @christopherjm : Facebook said it removed a militia event associated with the shooting of three protesters in Kenosha. It didn't. Here's what really happened, and why it could happen again. Another big Facebook story by @RMac18 and @CraigSilverman, who are on 🔥. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ ...

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  • @rmac18 @rmac18 on x
    Facebook told employees an event page for the Kenosha Guard militia group was deleted by the company following a shooting that left two dead. That was not true. It was self-deleted by the page admin. That and more showing how Facebook failed Kenosha: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/…
  • @craigsilverman Craig Silverman on x
    SCOOP w/ @RMac18: Contrary to its public comments, Facebook didn't remove the Kenosha Guard event page. The organizer did, before FB took action. We also have screenshots showing violent comments on the event page that FB moderators left up. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ ...
  • @kurtwagner8 Kurt Wagner on x
    These are some of the comments that FB users posted on an event page before the Kenosha protest shooting. The company did not remove the event despite it being flagged hundreds of times. How is that possible?? Good story from @RMac18 @CraigSilverman https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ …
  • @thetomzone @thetomzone on x
    Facebook apparently also lied to reporters https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @schoofsfeed Mark Schoofs on x
    Facebook's handling of the events in Kenosha wasn't so much an “operational mistake” as it was a total failure to take action. “They should be taking action against it before people get killed, not after.” https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ ... @RMac18 @CraigSilverman @BuzzFeedNews
  • @venkatananth Venkat Ananth on x
    “The fact that Facebook took credit publicly for removing the event page shows Facebook is more concerned with reputation management than product safety” https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ ...
  • @emmalbriant @emmalbriant on x
    There's a reason civil servants are non-political. Facebook acts as a government making policy that affects us all and yet has none of the accountability and historically incrementally developed checks and balances and codes that are needed for its pseudo-authority role. https://…
  • @rmac18 @rmac18 on x
    Sources at Facebook are now saying some employees are defending the 17-year-old Kenosha gunman in real time. We got some of this in our story, but it's particularly heated today and comes after Zuckerberg tried to stop such discussion earlier this week. https://www.buzzfeednews.c…
  • @jason_kint Jason Kint on x
    Two more thoughts. 1) This is outstanding and very important reporting. 2) I can't emphasize enough in this moment how important it is for press to drop all relationships and special access at Facebook. Afflict and hold to account the powerful as they're destroying the public. ht…
  • @mattrosoff Matt Rosoff on x
    Amazing. At this point, why believe anything the company says? https://twitter.com/...
  • @igorvolsky @igorvolsky on x
    This @Facebook employee pretty much sums up the consequences of the company's refusal to actively deplatform armed extremists & hate: “We are making the world worse by allowing content like this to exist in our platform” https://twitter.com/...
  • @mattmcgee Matt McGee on x
    If we had a dollar for every time “Facebook apologizes for the error”... https://twitter.com/...
  • @sarahfrier Sarah Frier on x
    Read the horrifying comments that were on this event page, revealed in this story. Then read Facebook's content policy on violence: https://www.facebook.com/... After four manual and many automated reviews of the page, Facebook decided to leave it up. https://twitter.com/...
  • @schoofsfeed Mark Schoofs on x
    HUGE. Despite Zuckerberg's prior statements that Facebook had removed a militia event where people discussed gathering in Kenosha to shoot protesters, Facebook never deleted it. Here's how Facebook failed Kenosha. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ ... @RMac18 @CraigSilverman @BuzzFee…
  • @buzzfeednews @buzzfeednews on x
    “I fully plan to kill looters and rioters tonight” This and other calls to violence were on the Kenosha Guard's event page. Facebook said it removed the event, but it was actually taken down by the militia — and only after two people were killed. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ ...
  • @shannimcg Shannon McGregor, PhD on x
    THIS is why transparency around decision making in moderation is so important. This is an astounding case https://twitter.com/...
  • @rmac18 @rmac18 on x
    One of the themes from this piece is that Facebook can't get a handle on an internal communications platform w/ more than 50,000 workers. Now replicate those polarizing and amplifying dynamics on a platform w/ 2.7 bil users and you start to see the issue. https://www.buzzfeednews…
  • @craigsilverman Craig Silverman on x
    When we asked Facebook about the event page's removal, the company admitted the public information was incorrect and apologized. https://twitter.com/...
  • @rmac18 @rmac18 on x
    The Kenosha shooting also split employees internally. Some posted support for police, leading colleagues to accuse them of deliberately trolling. One employee asked why FB had taken down accounts of the gunman when he hadn't been found guilty in court. https://www.buzzfeednews.co…
  • @rmac18 @rmac18 on x
    .@CraigSilverman and I talked to Facebook users who thought they were doing the right thing by reporting the militia event page and violent comments BEFORE the Kenosha shooting. Their reports all came back the same: The event was not in violation of Facebook's policies.
  • @christopherjm Christopher Miller on x
    Facebook said it removed a militia event associated with the shooting of three protesters in Kenosha. It didn't. Here's what really happened, and why it could happen again. Another big Facebook story by @RMac18 and @CraigSilverman, who are on 🔥. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ ...