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Facebook launches Messenger Rooms for group video chat, rolling out globally in the coming weeks, and says it will allow up to 50 people to join a call

Facebook is greatly expanding its video chat offerings to keep up with rising demand  —  Facebook is rolling out a suite of new products to expand its capabilities in video chat.

The Verge Casey Newton

Context & Ripple Effects

Messenger Rooms is the culmination of a four-year build-out of Facebook's group video stack. The company first tested the format in 2016 with [[a:915063|Messenger group video chat supporting six users on a split screen plus 50 voice-only participants]], and Rooms now scales the on-camera side to 50 people with no cap on viewers, rolling out globally within weeks as demand for video chat surges.

What follows shows Facebook treating Rooms not as a standalone utility but as a hub it keeps extending: by July users could live broadcast their Room calls, and by September Watch Together let up to eight people in a mobile chat — or 50 in a Room — watch videos together.

First-order effects

  • Facebook gains a 50-person, no-invite-needed group video product at exactly the moment global demand for video chat spikes, giving its existing Messenger and WhatsApp user bases an immediate reason to stay in-app rather than defect to dedicated conferencing tools.

Second-order effects

  • The July live-broadcast capability converts private Rooms into public content, pulling group video into Facebook's creator and distribution economy alongside Watch Together's co-viewing format — competitors built purely around meetings have no equivalent social layer to answer with.

Third-order effects

  • If the pattern holds, group video stops being a discrete meeting product and becomes a feature surface inside social platforms — with Facebook using scale in chat, broadcasting, and shared viewing to set consumer expectations that single-purpose video apps must chase.

The trend: Consumer video chat is consolidating into social platforms' broader engagement stacks, where calling, broadcasting, and co-watching are bundled features rather than standalone products.

Discussion

  • @dseetharaman Deepa Seetharaman on x
    Facebook's answer to Zoom: a video-chat feature called Messenger Rooms that can accommodate up to 50 people. Zoom shares down about 3% after the announcement. https://www.wsj.com/... via @JeffHorwitz
  • @benrbn Ben Rubin on x
    Houseparty's product thesis is in it being a substrate of shared intimacy — A focus on # of ppl for (consumer) convo shows how bigcos can miss the entire point. When was the last time u enjoyed a dinner table where 50ppl had equal access to ur attention? https://www.theverge.com/…
  • @facebook @facebook on x
    On @facebookapp, we're bringing back Live With and have made it easier to donate and raise money directly in Live. You'll also be able to mark Facebook Events as online only and broadcast live to your guests. We're also exploring ways for Pages to charge for Live events. https://…
  • @mosseri Adam Mosseri on x
    A series of video launches today: introducing Rooms on Messenger, doubling the people you can video chat with on WhatsApp, bringing Live With back to Facebook, and launching desktop Instagram Live, all to help people come together. Creating Rooms from Instagram will be here soon.…
  • @sarahfrier Sarah Frier on x
    Facebook's version of Zoom is free, with no time limit, for up to 50 people, don't need a FB account. He's talking about it live now: https://www.facebook.com/...
  • @samir_madani Sam on x
    I'd take Zoom's shortcomings in security any day over yet another spy tool for sneaky Zuck to get off on. The same Zuck that tapes over his computer's microphone and camera while pushing Messenger to the masses. https://twitter.com/...
  • @dcseifert Dan Seifert on x
    does facebook know that “rooms” sounds a lot like “zooms”? ok just checking https://www.theverge.com/...
  • @jhtv3 Josh on x
    Thank you, Zoom. It's been real. https://twitter.com/...
  • @tzhongg @tzhongg on x
    Facebook launches today: 🤳 Group video call up to 50 people with no FB login via Messenger Rooms (Zoom, Houseparty) 🎮 Livestream games via FB Gaming app (Twitch, YT) 💖 Virtual video dates via FB Dating (Tinder) 🎟 Sell event tickets via FB Events directly (Eventbrite)
  • @boztank Boz on x
    The mission of my organization at Facebook is to give people the tools to feel connected anytime, anywhere. That mission has never been more important than it is now. I'm pleased to share Rooms will be launching on Portal soon. https://www.facebook.com/...
  • @katienotopoulos Katie Notopoulos on x
    As someone who has been trying unsuccessfully to get my friends to video chat me over messenger/portal for.... months... let me tell you: people don't want this https://twitter.com/...
  • @seyitaylor @seyitaylor on x
    You don't think this is an overreaction? https://twitter.com/...
  • @joulee Julie Zhuo on x
    When it comes to building and shipping with a sense of urgency, few do it like @facebook. Over 40,000 employees and they can still design and launch a massive new feature in a matter of weeks. Congrats to my friends on Rooms—can't wait to use it. https://www.theverge.com/...
  • @mahirzeynalov Mahir Zeynalov on x
    That's how giants destroy a company that is focused on one service. https://twitter.com/...
  • @sarthakgh Sar Haribhakti on x
    Can't wait for Facebook to soon announce how they have hundreds of millions of users for the million features they launched today Unreal how fast this company moves. Say what you will, Zuck knows how to stay on top of the game at all times no matter what world FB operates in
  • @dougboneparth Douglas A. Boneparth on x
    If only there was videoconferencing platform that we could trust with our data more than Zoom. https://twitter.com/...
  • @denvercoder Tim Myers on x
    Now you can have a video conference about switching phone providers and then get Facebook ads for phone providers. https://twitter.com/...
  • @kevin_bowen Kevin on x
    people talking like zoom invented the concept of videoconferencing https://twitter.com/...
  • @kantrowitz Alex Kantrowitz on x
    Zoom is dead. Long live Zoom. https://www.vox.com/...
  • @satyan Satyan Gajwani on x
    Crazy to see that a startup with a product launch AFTER Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and Cisco all had established products (and in some cases 2+ products), has come out as the clear winner. https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @joannastern Joanna Stern on x
    Facebook Messenger Rooms proves my point from a few weeks back. The company has all the tools we need for this time: https://www.wsj.com/...
  • @mulligan Brenden Mulligan on x
    I'm not a fan of the Facebook newsfeed, but I do think FB can and should own social messaging/communication (vs zoom, google, etc..). This launch feels perfectly in their wheelhouse. Looking forward to it coming to Portal. https://about.fb.com/...
  • @dangoodin001 Dan Goodin on x
    I really hope Zoom prevails. We don't need Facebook or Google having any more of a quasi monopoly than they already have. https://twitter.com/...
  • @justinbrookman Justin Brookman on x
    Zoom now down 4%, though it's hard for me to see FB Rooms competing with Zoom's paid enterprise products. https://twitter.com/...
  • @privacymatters Privacy Matters on x
    Privacy Matters: Messenger Rooms https://about.fb.com/... <privacy matters eh? Nice try Facebook https://twitter.com/...
  • @facebook @facebook on x
    Introducing Messenger Rooms, group video calls that you can start and share via @messenger @facebookapp and soon @instagram @whatsapp and @portalfacebook. We're testing Rooms in a few countries now and plan to roll it out globally in the coming weeks. https://twitter.com/...
  • @marcsettle Marc Blank-Settle on x
    The return of “live with” on Facebook Live is big, if belated. It means journalists can easily(ish) video call guests and get them on screen at the same time - and record that conversation on the device they're calling with. (It works at the moment with FBL...) https://twitter.co…
  • @alexvoica Alexandru Voica on x
    Messenger Rooms is rolling out in some countries this week and will expand to the rest of the world in coming weeks, including the US. We will continue to add features over the coming months, as well. Read more on our @fbnewsroom: https://about.fb.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @schrep Mike Schroepfer on x
    Today's @Facebook Rooms announcement is about spending quality time with people you care about. AI powers the new experiences rolling out to Rooms to make video presence more effective and fun - AR effects, mood lighting, 360º immersive backgrounds, and more. https://twitter.com/…
  • @officialssuna Ssuna Ronald on x
    NEWS: @Facebook is expanding WhatsApp Group Calls. Soon you'll be able to have group voice and video calls with up to eight people on WhatsApp. READ https://about.fb.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @justinbrookman Justin Brookman on x
    FB Rooms aren't end-to-end encrypted, but their blog post assures “we don't watch or listen to your audio or video calls.” That said, unless FB puts that promise into a formal policy, I'm not sure it's reliable or legally enforceable. https://about.fb.com/...
  • @reckless Nilay Patel on x
    Here's @CaseyNewton talking to Mark Zuckerberg about Facebook's new Messenger Rooms product — and a key observation from Zuck about meetings and needing unstructured time to defeat fatigue https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @geoffreyfowler Geoffrey A. Fowler on x
    About the privacy on that new Facebook Rooms video calling system: “Rooms is not end-to-end encrypted.” “It uses the same technology to encrypt a video and audio conversation between people as it travels from their devices to our servers.” https://about.fb.com/...
  • @joshconstine @joshconstine on x
    By making Rooms discoverable via News Feed, IG Direct, Messenger & WhatsApp rather than just a feed post, it could spur a new era of spontaneous video chat https://techcrunch.com/...
  • @samfbiddle Sam Biddle on x
    if facebook says they're not viewing or listening that's good enough for me https://twitter.com/...
  • @micahflee Micah Lee on x
    “Room calls are not end-to-end encrypted, but Facebook says it does not view or listen to calls.” Great https://www.theverge.com/...
  • @joshconstine @joshconstine on x
    Facebook Rooms wins by copying Zoom gallery view & Houseparty drop-ins, then adding Fb's ubiquity, frequency, & graph to be uncopyable https://techcrunch.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @wongmjane Jane Manchun Wong on x
    Messenger Rooms codebase has been existing before Zoom become popular, and before even the COVID-19 started Its development wasn't very active until COVID-19 started, which I think to be them pivoting the feature to target Zoom https://wongmjane.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @stevekopack Steve Kopack on x
    Facebook Messenger's “Rooms is not end-to-end encrypted” https://about.fb.com/...
  • @kevinroose Kevin Roose on x
    Interested to see if this works. My hunch is that a lot of people like Zoom *because* it feels indie, not part of Facebook, disconnected from pre-existing social graph, etc. https://twitter.com/...
  • @caseynewton Casey Newton on x
    When a social app goes from 10M DAU to 300M MAU in three months, that gets Mark Zuckerberg's attention https://twitter.com/...
  • @ow Owen Williams on x
    It makes sense that Facebook wants to try and capture some of the Zoom hype but this is also hilarious because they recently shut off access to Messenger for anyone using it without being attached to a Facebook account https://www.theverge.com/...
  • @joshconstine @joshconstine on x
    Facebook makes a huge bet on spontaneous video chat, putting its new Houseparty/Zoom rival Rooms atop News Feed https://techcrunch.com/...
  • @sarahfrier Sarah Frier on x
    By “he” I mean Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg says video calling has gone up by 10x in some areas during shelter-in-place. Sales of Facebook Portal devices are going up 10x. He says they're working hard to make more of them.
  • @sarahfrier Sarah Frier on x
    Zuckerberg: “if you care about security and you want end-to-end encryption you're probably using whatsapp.” on whatsapp they will now allow 8 people in a group call, up from 4.
  • @thekenyeung Ken Yeung on x
    Facebook launches Messenger Rooms, a tool that lets you video call with up to 50 people, friends can drop in whenever. WhatsApp now supports 8 people on a video call, video calls supported on Facebook Dating, new livestreaming features on FB and IG. https://www.theverge.com/...
  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    zoom has exploded in growth in just two months. now the competition is coming for it. here is a story on what's happening inside of Facebook and Google to go after the rise of streaming video https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @stevebartlettsc Steven Bartlett on x
    Remember Meerkat? The app that started the live social video trend. Twitter crushed them with Periscope. The CEO of Meerkat shut down & said “it was a great feature on top of an existing network”. He then launched Houseparty, today history repeats itself: https://techcrunch.com/.…
  • @ambermac Amber Mac on x
    “#Facebook is co-opting some of the top video chat innovations like Zoom's gallery view for large groups and Houseparty's spontaneous hangouts for a new feature called Rooms” https://techcrunch.com/...
  • @pierce David Pierce on x
    A Facebook Portal that runs Zoom is a thing I am VERY interested in, sad it's not coming sooner https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @kenli729 Kenneth Li on x
    Riddle me this: is it google duo, meets, or hangouts or a permutation of some but not all of the aforementioned? Mb start there. https://twitter.com/...
  • @dmccabe David McCabe on x
    The latest app to make Facebook nervous? Zoom. You'll never guess what happened next. https://www.nytimes.com/... via @MikeIsaac @sheeraf
  • @aatifsumar Aatif Sumar on x
    Whoah. Portal devices were about to get Zoom support in May, but that's on hold thanks to Zoom's feature freeze. Portal TV would have been the first big-screen Zoom solution. https://twitter.com/...
  • @jaspar @jaspar on x
    i have no idea how to start a google hangout or whatever it's called now https://twitter.com/...
  • @reckless Nilay Patel on x
    I am sorry but it is EXTREMELY FUNNY that Google's messaging teams are like “where did Zoom come from” https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @jesselehrich Jesse Lehrich on x
    omg... Google's chief biz officer, on a Google Meet call with 1000s of staff, was asked why Zoom is dominating video chat. as he's answering, his kid walks in & asks if he's using Zoom 🤣 https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @jamesrbuk James Ball on x
    This is one of the best work “oh no” moments I've seen lately https://twitter.com/...
  • @abhishek_tri Abhishek on x
    Google's chief business officer, on a Google Meet call with 1000s of staff, was asked why Zoom is dominating video chat, what happened next will blow your mind 😂🤦🏻‍ ♂️ yesterday Facebook launched a rival, all these biggies are still shocked & preparing now https://www.nytimes.com…
  • @digiphile Alex Howard on x
    “Zuckerberg is not the only tech titan with @Zoom_US on his mind.” https://www.nytimes.com/... @Google made @google_meet more accessible through @Gmail. @Cisco is promoting @WebEx as “highly secure.” @Verizon acquired a videoconferencing service. Me: Watch @MicrosoftTeams & schoo…
  • @shiraovide Shira Ovide on x
    Sorry, Facebook marketers. I am calling this “Zoombook” and you can't make me stop. https://twitter.com/...