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Grubhub admits to adding restaurants without their permission, after restaurateur found her Thai restaurant had a page on Grubhub and its subsidiary Seamless

Pim Techamuanvivit was managing her Michelin-starred Thai restaurant in San Francisco, Kin Khao, around 8:30 p.m. on Saturday when she got an unexpected call. Tweets: @hingeloss , @noyokono , @artguy1 , @taraduggan , @adrjeffries , and @alex_danco Tweets: Chris Hua / @hingeloss : I scoured the internet and figured out where the “Kin Khao” food was supposed to come from. Would it surprise you that Softbank gave them a billion dollar valuation? https://hua.substack.com/... https://twitter.com/... @noyokono : Oh man I gotta stop using @Seamless for good. This is shady and wrong and kinda evil. https://twitter.com/... Charles Desmarais / @artguy1 : Think your takeout order is coming from the restaurant you love? Maybe its source is “some rat-infested warehouse.” @Seamless @Grubhub @DoorDash https://twitter.com/... Tara Duggan / @taraduggan : Online delivery sites Seamless, Grubhub and Door Dash are offering food from San Francisco restaurants that don't do delivery or even takeout. A customer found out when he tried to order from @KinKhao last night - and so did Kin Khao. https://www.sfchronicle.com/ ... Adrianne Jeffries / @adrjeffries : waaaow this is worse than i thought. grubhub admitted to adding restaurants to its website without their explicit permission https://www.sfchronicle.com/ ... https://twitter.com/... Alex Danco / @alex_danco : Interesting implication of this story, if true (which I have no reason to believe it's not): the idea of “Counterfeit Food”. Thread: 1/ https://twitter.com/...

San Francisco Chronicle Tara Duggan

Context & Ripple Effects

The admission closes a loop that opened in mid-2019, when reporting revealed Grubhub had bought domain-name variations of restaurant clients and launched shadow pages that outranked the restaurants' own sites while inflating commissions. At the time Grubhub denied creating websites without permission, insisting the service was covered by partner contracts — a position this week's concession effectively abandons.

What changed is who surfaced the evidence: not an investigation but Pim Techamuanvivit discovering her Michelin-starred San Francisco restaurant Kin Khao had live pages on both Grubhub and Seamless she never created. The related coverage also shows the pattern was never confined to one company — Yelp quietly routed takeout calls through Grubhub for tracking, and months later DoorDash began listing restaurants without their permission too.

First-order effects

  • Kin Khao and any similarly listed restaurant now field orders they cannot fulfill accurately — wrong menus, wrong hours, wrong kitchen — with the reputational damage landing on the restaurant, not the platform.
  • Grubhub's shift from contractual justification to outright admission exposes its partner agreements to scrutiny from every restaurant currently on Grubhub and Seamless.

Second-order effects

  • Rival DoorDash's identical unauthorized-listing behavior means no single aggregator can claim this is one bad actor; restaurants auditing their own listings will find the practice across platforms, pressuring all of them toward opt-in listing standards.
  • Consumer trust becomes a pricing variable: diners burned by phantom listings have less reason to order through any intermediary, pushing platforms to compete on verified supply rather than sheer catalog size.

Third-order effects

  • The arc from 2019 denial to admission points toward regulators treating unauthorized listings as a consumer-protection issue rather than a contract dispute — a trajectory the corpus confirms with Grubhub's eventual $25M FTC and Illinois AG settlement over non-consensual listings and misleading fee and pay disclosures.
  • If enforcement sticks, marketplace economics shift: aggregators whose commissions depend on capturing demand through pages restaurants don't control lose that lever, tilting power back toward restaurants that can verify their own digital presence.

The trend: Delivery marketplaces are learning that treating restaurant supply as inventory they can list at will carries a rising regulatory price, forcing the industry from growth-at-all-costs listing tactics toward consent-based supply.

Discussion

  • @hingeloss Chris Hua on x
    I scoured the internet and figured out where the “Kin Khao” food was supposed to come from. Would it surprise you that Softbank gave them a billion dollar valuation? https://hua.substack.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @noyokono @noyokono on x
    Oh man I gotta stop using @Seamless for good. This is shady and wrong and kinda evil. https://twitter.com/...
  • @artguy1 Charles Desmarais on x
    Think your takeout order is coming from the restaurant you love? Maybe its source is “some rat-infested warehouse.” @Seamless @Grubhub @DoorDash https://twitter.com/...
  • @taraduggan Tara Duggan on x
    Online delivery sites Seamless, Grubhub and Door Dash are offering food from San Francisco restaurants that don't do delivery or even takeout. A customer found out when he tried to order from @KinKhao last night - and so did Kin Khao. https://www.sfchronicle.com/ ...
  • @adrjeffries Adrianne Jeffries on x
    waaaow this is worse than i thought. grubhub admitted to adding restaurants to its website without their explicit permission https://www.sfchronicle.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
  • @alex_danco Alex Danco on x
    Interesting implication of this story, if true (which I have no reason to believe it's not): the idea of “Counterfeit Food”. Thread: 1/ https://twitter.com/...