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TfL says Uber's London license will not be renewed after it identified risks in Uber's system that allowed drivers to fake their identity; some were unlicensed

Ride-hailing service to continue while it appeals against Transport for London decision  —  Uber has lost its licence …

The Guardian Gwyn Topham

Discussion

  • NullTX JP Buntinx on x
    Uber may be Forced out of London After Losing its License
  • @dkhos Dara Khosrowshahi on x
    We understand we're held to a high bar, as we should be. But this TfL decision is just wrong. Over the last 2 years we have fundamentally changed how we operate in London. We have come very far — and we will keep going, for the millions of drivers and riders who rely on us.
  • @mayoroflondon @mayoroflondon on x
    My statement on TfL's Uber decision. pic.twitter.com/uMDjoIlqOW
  • @lfdodds Laurence Dodds on x
    Gosh, this bit from TFL's press release on Uber is absolutely nuts: 14,000 Uber trips in London were driven by an unauthorised driver pretending to be someone else due to vulnerabilities in Uber's systems https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ ... https://twitter.com/...
  • @toluogunlesi Tolu Ogunlesi on x
    Mayor Sadiq Khan: “I know this decision may be unpopular with Uber users, but their safety is the paramount concern. Regulations are there to keep Londoners safe.” * BBC: “Uber is going to appeal this decision so a magistrate will have to decide...” https://www.bbc.com/...
  • @dmitry140 Dmitry Shevelenko on x
    Case study in the importance of collaborating and developing trust with cities from Day 1 if your company operates on public rights of way. Londoners will see A LOT of ads from Uber the next 2 weeks that highlight how bad things will get if they are kicked out. https://twitter.co…
  • @brenthurley Brent Hurley on x
    to me this begs the question as to whether insurance companies will begin carving out ride share driver coverage in their policies. paying more for commercial coverage seems reasonable since you are essentially operating a small biz although that'd be tough for the drivers/uber h…
  • @shiraovide Shira Ovide on x
    A thing I would very much like to know: If, as the TfL regulator says, at least 14,000 Uber trips in London were done by unauthorized drivers, then how often does this happen in the rest of the world? https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @jonnelledge Jonn Elledge on x
    Short version: this is exactly what happened in 2017. Uber blinked then, and did what TfL told it - I will be amazed if it doesn't do the same this time. https://www.citymetric.com/...
  • @dmitryopines Dmitry Grozoubinski on x
    2/ That said, I don't think people are reading this story closely enough. Uber's entire business model is predicated on a crowd-sourced evaluation model. Every driver gets rated every trip and I can see my driver's rating well before they pick me up.
  • @dmitryopines Dmitry Grozoubinski on x
    7/ Public policy isn't a team sport. You don't have to pick “Uber” or “Black Cabs” or “Government” and just blindly stan them. Being ‘disruptive’ doesn't mean you can cut corners by just ignoring all laws and safety producers. /endrant
  • @jess_shankleman Jess Shankleman on x
    Uber lost its license in London for the second time in less than three years. Its app has a vulnerability that allowed thousands of unauthorized users to pose as Uber drivers by uploading their photos to licensed accounts https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @tfltph @tfltph on x
    We have today made a decision not to grant Uber London Limited a new private hire operator's licence: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/...
  • @shiraovide Shira Ovide on x
    Uber's 5 biggest markets in 2018: L.A., New York, the SF area, London and Sao Paulo. All now have regulations or restrictions in place (or pending) that may seriously undermine Uber's growth or finances. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @missig_geek Miss IG Geek on x
    Good. All they had to do was pay their employees properly, institute proper safety standards and stop spying on everyone who used their service. If they can't/won't do those things then they can sod off https://twitter.com/...
  • @alexhern Hern on x
    feels like any response needs to acknowledge the 14,000 rides with completely unvetted and uninsured strangers? https://twitter.com/...
  • @charlescholland Charles Holland on x
    TfL placing much emphasis on appeal process: 'If they choose to appeal, Uber will have the opportunity to publicly demonstrate to a magistrate whether it has put in place sufficient measures to ensure potential safety risks to passengers are eliminated." https://tfl.gov.uk/...
  • @nimkoali Nimco Ali on x
    Thanks for banning one of the safest ways to get around London. https://twitter.com/...
  • @dmitryopines Dmitry Grozoubinski on x
    1/ Quick, non snarky thread on this from someone who uses Uber all the time and has a lot of sympathy for the argument “Taxis are often shit, and the industry is just trying to protect a monopoly.” I live in Geneva. Trust me, I know. Our cabs are AWFUL. https://www.theguardian.co…
  • @nytimes @nytimes on x
    Breaking News: Uber's operating license in London has not been extended, throwing the company's future in its most lucrative European market into question. http://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @psawers Paul Sawers on x
    This effectively kickstarts the same process that followed the original license rescind back in 2017 — Uber will have to present its case to a magistrate, who will then decide whether Uber's license should be renewed. Will this just go on and on forever?
  • @hadas_gold Hadas Gold on x
    Just in - London transport authority says Uber is not “fit and proper” for a license. Uber has 21 days to decide whether or not to appeal, and is allowed to keep operating in London through the appeals process. https://tfl-newsroom.prgloo.com/ ...
  • @nigelcameron Nigel Cameron on x
    If the facts are as reported the incompetence on Uber's part, given what happened in the last round, looks extraordinary. https://twitter.com/...
  • @julesmattsson Jules Mattsson on x
    TfL's reasons for not granting Uber a new private hire operator's licence are some pretty serious allegations: 14,000 uninsured journeys and some with unlicensed drivers. Uber say the decision is “extraordinary and wrong”, they can continue during appeal https://tfl.gov.uk/... ht…
  • @leokelion Leo Kelion on x
    Uber set to lose London licence after 14,000+ trips found to have been done by unauthorised drivers - plus suspended drivers were able to create new accounts and start again. Firm will no doubt appeal, but pretty damaging allegations. https://tfl.gov.uk/...
  • @jonathanhaynes Jonathan Haynes on x
    Uber loses its licence in London ... but will likely still keep operating as it appeals (we can repeat this cycle endlessly it seems) https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
  • @martinsfp Martin Sfp Bryant on x
    If this alleged safety issue has affected Uber in London, it would make sense to assume it's more widespread than that? https://tfl.gov.uk/...