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16" MacBook Pro first hands-on: while the keyboard's “de-Jony-Ive-ification” is good, we shouldn't be celebrating the return of features we shouldn't have lost

John Gruber / Daring Fireball :

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  • @brianmcc Brian McCullough on x
    Prediction: when the new “functional” keyboards come to the entire MacBook lineup, we're gonna have a couple quarters of exploding Mac sales. Years of pent up demand from those of us who have been waiting on the sidelines. https://www.techmeme.com/...
  • @dhh @dhh on x
    In other Apple news, I'm happy that they've finally accepted defeat with the butterfly keyboard! The new 16" MacBook has reverted to scissor-style keys, A PHYSICAL ESC BUTTON!!, and a fixed arrow key arrangement. Halle-fucking-lujah! https://daringfireball.net/...
  • @dhh @dhh on x
    What I'm less happy about is the fact that they continue to deny and deflect on the root cause. A more humble, mature, and kind Apple would have taken THAT crisis as an opportunity to turn the page, and actually own their mistakes. We want Apple to succeed! But only by doing righ
  • @dhh @dhh on x
    It's also not a great look that in order to get a functional keyboard, you have to spend at least $2,400. But I accept that change takes time. And surely now the long Apple nightmare that was the butterfly keyboard will be over in a few months. https://www.apple.com/...
  • @tim Tim Bradshaw on x
    “de-Jony-Ive-ification” https://twitter.com/...
  • @imyke Myke Hurley on x
    Apple are saying that the new MacBook Pro has microphones that can be used ‘for creating superclean podcasts or music recordings on the go’ So we put that to the test: http://relay.fm/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @joshuatopolsky Joshua Topolsky on x
    Oh wow good speakers? Nice https://twitter.com/...
  • @stevekovach Steve Kovach on x
    This is a good take https://twitter.com/...
  • @benthompson Ben Thompson on x
    It is both a compliment and a condemnation of Apple that I am extremely excited about spending thousands of dollars on a laptop because it has a functioning keyboard. Lots of important subtle points in @gruber's overview ("de-Jony-Ive-ification" anyone?) https://daringfireball.ne…