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Ming-Chi Kuo: Apple to launch the iPhone SE 2 in Q1 2020 with an iPhone 8-like design and an A13 chip

Apple is set to launch the next version of the iPhone SE 2 in the first quarter of 2020, according to renowned Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.  The new phone will be more affordable …

9to5Mac Benjamin Mayo

Context & Ripple Effects

Ming-Chi Kuo's supply-chain note puts a new budget iPhone on Apple's calendar for Q1 2020, reusing the iPhone 8's design but pairing it with the A13 chip that powers the flagship lineup. A follow-up report a week later fleshed out the spec sheet: 3GB of RAM, 64GB and 128GB storage tiers, no 3D Touch, and a $399 starting price.

The SE 2 doesn't arrive alone — Kuo's same research places new iPad Pro models in Q1 2020 and an Apple AR headset built with third-party brands in Q2 2020, framing this as a broad early-2020 refresh. The budget tier also proved durable: two years later Kuo was tracking a 5G-equipped iPhone SE for H1 2022, confirming the low-cost line as a recurring product rather than a one-off.

First-order effects

  • Buyers get flagship-class A13 performance at a $399 price point, collapsing the usual gap between Apple's chip tier and its price tier.
  • The iPhone 8-derived design lets Apple keep bill-of-materials and tooling costs low, protecting margin on a device priced for volume.

Second-order effects

  • Mid-range Android vendors face a sub-$400 device with Apple's silicon, forcing them to compete on features (cameras, displays, 5G) rather than raw chip performance.
  • A cheaper entry point widens the top of Apple's install base, feeding the services and App Store businesses that monetize the ecosystem long after the hardware sale.

Third-order effects

  • The SE line hardens into a standing budget tier with its own multi-year refresh cadence — the 2020 A13 model followed by a 5G successor — rather than an occasional experiment.
  • Apple's product ladder settles into a structure where last-generation flagship silicon trickles down annually, making chip roadmap timing a pricing lever across the whole iPhone range.

The trend: Apple is converting its budget iPhone from a one-off experiment into a recurring tier, with flagship silicon trickling down on a predictable refresh cycle.

Discussion

  • @briantong Brian Tong on x
    “Let's just find whatever extra parts we have from 2 to 3 years ago to make a killer margin on it, make it affordable and call it the SE2. People are gonna buy it.” https://twitter.com/...
  • @joannastern Joanna Stern on x
    If true, this will make SO many of my readers SO happy. I hope Apple does this if only to make the emails about the SE replacement stop! https://twitter.com/...
  • @raywongy Raymond Wong on x
    iPhone 6 form factor will never die https://twitter.com/...
  • @bzamayo Benjamin Mayo on x
    When the SE was introduced, it was sold at $399 for 16 GB. When the SE was discontinued, it was $349 for 32 GB. The iPhone 8 is currently on sale at $449 for 64 GB. Easy to assume Apple will hit $399 again with an A13 iPhone 8, presumably 32 GB config. https://9to5mac.com/...
  • @hallstephenj Stephen Hall on x
    an iPhone 5 design with the A13 would be awesome, but this... meh https://twitter.com/...
  • @bengeskin Ben Geskin on x
    Here's your long awaited #iPhoneSE2! A13 processor 🔥 https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...