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[Thread] New UK-US treaty grants UK courts options similar to those of the US for obtaining message content, but won't change the status quo on E2E encryption

It's really early on a Sunday, so while I sip my coffee I'm also going to try to clear up a lot of confusion about the CLOUD Act created by poor reporting by The Times (of London) and Bloomberg. Here is the original, incorrect story: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/...

@alexstamos Alex Stamos

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  • @mmasnick Mike Masnick on x
    This is getting some attention from people thinking this means backdoors, but I'm 99% sure this is simply wrong. The CLOUD act has many problems but it does NOT require breaking encryption https://twitter.com/...
  • @jkosseff Jeff Kosseff on x
    An excellent summary that reporters should read *before* writing terribly misleading articles about the CLOUD Act. https://twitter.com/...
  • @astepanovich Amie Stepanovich on x
    This thread 💯 + two caveats: 1- I disagree w Alex on adequacy of human rights protections in the law. Lots on this by @accessnow eg https://www.accessnow.org/... 2- UK law authorizes back doors even if the agreements don't. UK LE will likely push the line & courts will need to st…
  • @filosottile Filippo Valsorda on x
    US and UK agree on some streamlined MLATs to share information they already have. Bloomberg makes it about WhatsApp and muddles it with the encryption debate. #1 on HN as “US and UK agree to force WhatsApp backdoor”. Comments rage against backdoors. Well done to all involved. htt…
  • @iblametom Thomas Brewster on x
    Not sure I understand what's new here... they're not mandating backdoors, right? If not, what're they doing other than having companies hand over data like they already do? https://twitter.com/...
  • @nickpickles Nick Pickles on x
    The two year thing is total nonsense. The UK-US agreement doesn't change access to end-to-end encrypted services. Other than that, spot on. https://twitter.com/...