Discussion

• @panzer Matthew Panzarino on x

  Up to my old tricks. I took the iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 to Disneyland and put them through their paces. Spoiler, the camera is great. Night mode destroys. https://techcrunch.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @reckless Nilay Patel on x

  I've spent the past week reviewing the iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro. I think Apple finally beat the Pixel camera - the iPhone 11 Pro camera is the best I've seen on a phone, and I saw a huge increase in battery life. https://www.theverge.com/...

• @ow Owen Williams on x

  The Pixel 2/3 were such a phenomenal leap ahead of the iPhone, and this seems barely a few steps ahead of those. I'd be surprised if Apple doesn't look like it's playing catchup in a few short weeks again.

• @michaelbabich Michael Babich on x

  So, basically Apple just managed to get to the level Pixel had two years ago doing marginally better. Just incremental improvement of Pixel's computational photography is just enough to beat it. Anyway, we all will benefit off this derby.

• @dsilverman Dwight Silverman on x

  Interesting. @reckless at @verge says if your iPhone is older than the XR, the 11 is worth getting. https://www.theverge.com/... But @BrianXCHEN at @nytimestech says consider it if your iPhone is 5 years or older. https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @llsethj Seth Weintraub on x

  Today appears to be the day that everyone acknowledges that iPhone XR/XS cameras weren't great, especially vs. comp like Pixel 3 and P30. Glad I skipped (1st time ever). #iPhoneX4lyfe https://twitter.com/...

• @nicolasmagand Nicolas Magand on x

  Browsing through the iPhone 11 reviews: too bad the “upgrading from XS or XR” and “should you give up your XS for 11 Pro” angles are so strong, as if most readers were upgrading iPhone every year, like tech journalists. Pretty sure the vast majority is not. tip @Techmeme

• @reckless Nilay Patel on x

  I feel fairly vindicated for saying the iPhone XS camera was not great in our review last year. In comparison to the iPhone 11 it is just a blurry mess.

• @nytimesbusiness @nytimesbusiness on x

  .@bxchen generally advised upgrading to the newest iPhone if you had your existing smartphone for two years. But something has now changed. https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @mickbk Mick Krever on x

  How insane is it that companies have convinced us that, every two years, we need to get rid of a very expensive and perfectly functional possession. HT @bxchen: https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @bxchen Brian X. Chen on x

  Historically, whenever Apple releases a new iPhone, it makes the iPhone from two years ago look obsolete and meh. Not so with the iPhone 11 — the 2017 iPhone X is still great in comparison. It's time to reset our upgrade criteria. My untraditional review: https://www.nytimes.com/…

• @alexhern Alex Hern on x

  genuinely curious if the NYT will be given an embargoed review of the iPhone 12 next year if this is their review of the iPhone 11 https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @reckless Nilay Patel on x

  That said, I think most people should get the regular iPhone 11, which offers most of the same features, including the main camera and terrific battery life, for $300 less. You just don't get an OLED or a telephoto camera. https://www.theverge.com/...

• @happicamp James Bareham on x

  It's no secret that I thought the camera on the XS was a hot mess. But photos taken on new iPhone 11 and 11 Pro are genuinely impressive. This is without doubt the best camera on any smartphone today. The Pixel 4 is going to have to be astonishingly good to beat it https://twitte…

• @martinsfp Martin Sfp Bryant on x

  Not upgrading your phone is the new upgrading your phone. https://twitter.com/...

• @ndlstrong Nate Strong on x

  Sorry, @Apple, but I agree with everything in this article from @nytimestech. Not enough innovation to drive upgrades anymore. https://www.nytimes.com/... #tech #iphone

• @nytimes @nytimes on x

  iPhone 11 and 11 Pro review: “We are now living in the golden age of smartphones, where the gadgets' improvements each year are far from seismic,” writes @bxchen. “The bottom line? It's time to reset our upgrade criteria.” https://nyti.ms/30kdbis

• @benbajarin Ben Bajarin on x

  With the reviews out, knowing a big portion of Apple's installed base is still on 3 yr old phones or more is helpful. So here are some estimates of the base of devices in use. Pre-iPhone 6=8% iPhone 6 = 10% iPhone 7=21% iPhone 8=23% 62% of base WW not on X or later.

• @benbajarin Ben Bajarin on x

  For the portion of that 62% who will upgrade this year, an upgrade to the Xr, 11, 11 Pro will be a big step up. This is the context to remember when thinking about upgrade cycles.

• @puiwingtam Pui-Wing Tam on x

  It's time to break free of the automatic upgrade-smartphone-every-2-years cycle. @bxchen on why: https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @rdrv3 David Ruddock on x

  It's absolutely true phones are staying useful longer, especially now since Apple is replacing iPhone batteries cheaply, and has continued with much longer software update support than any Android OEM. Apple is doing more to *keep* customers than any other smartphone brand.

• @rdrv3 David Ruddock on x

  I've not seen any Android manufacturer seriously entertain the idea that a customer using a phone 4-5 years after it's released should still have a “good” experience. And I'm not saying using an iPhone 6 is great in 2019, but I'm sure it's livable. A Galaxy S5 in 2019? uhhhhhhh

• @rdrv3 David Ruddock on x

  Specifically, their review says that unless you have an iPhone 6 (2014 model year) or older, there's no need to buy an iPhone 11. And that's only so you get iOS 13. Imagine suggesting to someone they shouldn't upgrade their Android phone unless it was a Galaxy S5 or older. lol

• @rdrv3 David Ruddock on x

  The official New York Times iPhone upgrade position: don't buy a new iPhone if yours isn't at least five years old. https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @shiraovide Shira Ovide on x

  A smartphone review that actually considers the buying patterns for smartphones: https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @reckless Nilay Patel on x

  The NYT recommending that you shoot flash photos instead of upgrading your phone is some wild 2019 chaos energy https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...