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An in-depth look at the feasibility, progress, and experts' opinions of lidar-based vs Tesla-like camera-only approaches to fully autonomous cars

“They're all going to dump lidar,” Musk said about self-driving rivals in April.  —  Lots of companies are working to develop self-driving cars. Tweets: @arstechnica , @aparanjape , and @ghosthayes Tweets: @arstechnica : Hmm, is it really though? “Lidar is really a shortcut. It sidesteps the fundamental problems of visual recognition that is necessary for autonomy. It gives a false sense of progress, and is ultimately a crutch.” https://arstechnica.com/... Amit Paranjape / @aparanjape : .@ElonMusk: “Anyone relying on #lidar is doomed.” Experts: Maybe not “They're all going to dump lidar,” Musk said about self-driving rivals in April. https://arstechnica.com/... John Hayes / @ghosthayes : There are no experts in self driving, only people who have failed for different lengths of time. Lidar has been applied to AVs for 15 years without a breakthrough. It's clearly the wrong place to concentrate. https://twitter.com/...

Ars Technica Timothy B. Lee

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  • @arstechnica @arstechnica on x
    Hmm, is it really though? “Lidar is really a shortcut. It sidesteps the fundamental problems of visual recognition that is necessary for autonomy. It gives a false sense of progress, and is ultimately a crutch.” https://arstechnica.com/...
  • @aparanjape Amit Paranjape on x
    .@ElonMusk: “Anyone relying on #lidar is doomed.” Experts: Maybe not “They're all going to dump lidar,” Musk said about self-driving rivals in April. https://arstechnica.com/...
  • @ghosthayes John Hayes on x
    There are no experts in self driving, only people who have failed for different lengths of time. Lidar has been applied to AVs for 15 years without a breakthrough. It's clearly the wrong place to concentrate. https://twitter.com/...