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Young Chinese tech entrepreneurs find Silicon Valley unimpressive on their latest annual trip, say moonshot ideas and long development times don't work in China

China's startup founders used to see a pilgrimage to tech's mecca of innovation as a rite.  Now, not so much. Tweets: @johnrobb , @natashakhanhk , @bychunhan , @liyuan6 , and @mdudas Tweets: John Robb / @johnrobb :

Wall Street Journal Li Yuan

Context & Ripple Effects

Six years after Wired chronicled how China went from a home of copycats like Baidu, Tencent, and JD to an innovation hub in its own right (from copycats to innovators), the annual Silicon Valley pilgrimage has lost its meaning for young Chinese founders. Their argument is specific: moonshot ideas and long development timelines don't survive in China's market, where speed-to-deployment decides winners.

The WSJ piece now reads as a high-water mark. The same founders who dismissed Silicon Valley in 2018 would, by 2024, be setting up firms there only to find that any investment with Chinese ties is a hard sell (Chinese VCs in Silicon Valley), while domestic startup formation collapsed from 51,302 new startups in 2018 to 1,202 in 2023 per IT Juzi (China's startup formation collapse).

First-order effects

  • Chinese founders stop treating Silicon Valley as a rite of passage, judging its long-horizon research culture as mismatched with a home market that rewards rapid iteration over moonshots.

Second-order effects

  • Cross-border capital that once flowed through admiration becomes suspect: within six years, Chinese VCs opening Silicon Valley offices discover Chinese-linked deals face resistance from US investors, and Chinese backers of India's ecosystem are forced to cash out early as geopolitical tensions build (India IPO cash-outs).

Third-order effects

  • The confidence reversal foreshadows a structural unwind — the tech crackdown leaves unemployed workers and a shrunken founding class (crackdown-era job losses) — pointing toward two separate tech spheres where Chinese entrepreneurship no longer benchmarks itself against, or raises money from, Silicon Valley.

The trend: Chinese tech entrepreneurship is decoupling from Silicon Valley — first ideologically, then financially — as each side's capital and talent pools close to the other.

Discussion

  • @johnrobb John Robb on x
    More: “They said that SV moonshot ideas and long development times don't work in China because investors are less patient and copycats are so rife that businesses have to get products to market superfast.” http://twitter.com/...
  • @bychunhan @bychunhan on x
    “The age that Silicon Valley serves as the teacher and China follows step by step is becoming the past, at an accelerating pace.” @LiYuan6 looks at Silicon Valley's fading allure among Chinese internet startups. http://www.wsj.com/...
  • @mdudas Mike Dudas on x
    Chinese entrepreneurs find Silicon Valley unimpressive on their latest annual pilgrimage http://www.wsj.com/... via @WSJ http://twitter.com/...
  • @natashakhanhk Natasha Khan on x
    “China is like a startup. The US is like a big corporation,” -opinion of one China entrepreneur. On a recent pilgrimage to Silicon Valley, “N. California's low-rise buildings looked shabbier than the glitzy skyscrapers in Beijing and Shenzhen.” https://www.wsj.com/... by @LiYuan…
  • @liyuan6 Li Yuan on x
    China's startup founders used to see a pilgrimage to Silicon Valley as a rite. Now, not so much https://www.wsj.com/... via @WSJ