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• @ednewtonrex Ed Newton-Rex on x

  The Warner / Suno settlement is a very good day for musicians, and for people everywhere fighting against exploitative AI. More details on the agreement are needed, but the bottom line is this: Suno is shifting to models trained on music they've licensed, and shutting down their …

• @buckymoore Bucky Moore on x

  Absolutely historic day for the music industry. Congrats @MikeyShulman @mignano

• @nayakkayak Aatish Nayak on x

  Partnerships are underrated accelerants in AI especially when your industry is based on prestige and trust You can often one-shot trust by negotiating the right deal.  Arguably the most important thing an AI founder can work on ElevenLabs and Harvey are other great examples, thou…

• @koltregaskes @koltregaskes on x

  Suno partners with Warner Music Group, settling copyright lawsuits and deprecating current models in 2026 for licensed ones, with no clear changes to user rights on existing generations, need more info. - Partnership resolves prior claims over the use of WMG content in Suno's [im…

• @koltregaskes @koltregaskes on x

  I'm particularly concerned with this message from the press release, which states that current models will “deprecate” when new models arrive. Sure, but does this mean we'll only have licensed models from 2026? [image]

• @koltregaskes @koltregaskes on x

  @MikeyShulman I think we need a clear understanding of what rights we'll have (if any) with the new 2026 models after the current models are “deprecated” as per the press release: https://www.prnewswire.com/...

• @matdryhurst Mat Dryhurst on x

  and artist revenue will be lora on top of the base model, as I've said for years No word at all about pretraining payments [image]

• @future_of_music @future_of_music on x

  Not enough details about this settlement to be able to really evaluate it. Opt-in only is good, and changes to the model are important. But it's no secret that plenty of musicians would prefer to see Suno sued into oblivion.

• @mattvidpro @mattvidpro on x

  You'll need a paid Suno AI acc to download songs soon, according to Blog post & new deal with Warner Music Group: https://suno.com/... [image]

• @mikeyshulman Mikey on x

  Suno is partnering with the Warner Music Group https://suno.com/...

• @gavinpurcell Gavin Purcell on x

  and there we go... suno now settles with a music major

• @scottbelsky Scott Belsky on x

  in this new world, some collaborations are a legit form of innovation. nice progress @MikeyShulman and @suno team.

• @hersh_desai Hersh Desai on x

  I think we'll look back at this moment in 5 years and realize that this was the beginning of a new era in music that will be defined by more creative expression + deeper artist-fan engagement

• @mignano Michael Mignano on x

  Historic deal for both music and AI industries. Pie should meaningfully grow for everyone — especially artists and creators.

• @reckless Nilay Patel on bluesky

  Record labels somewhat famously have never been in the morality business and somewhat more famously have always been in the “squeezing artists for profit until they burn out and die” business [embedded post]

• @caseynewton Casey Newton on bluesky

  Record labels had the chance to stand up for copyright against AI scrapers — but now they're folding www.platformer.news/suno-warner- ...  [image]

• r/aiwars r on reddit

  WARNER MUSIC GROUP AND SUNO FORGE GROUNDBREAKING PARTNERSHIP - Warner Music Group

• r/SunoAI r on reddit

  Suno partners with WMG

• @ednewtonrex Ed Newton-Rex on x

  I want to address Mat's argument here, because it's an argument among AI types that is so common and yet so misleading. Mat argues that Suno shouldn't be required to license the music they train on, because an equal split of their $250M investment would assign $12.50 to each

• @ednewtonrex Ed Newton-Rex on x

  Also apparently in the pitch deck: - Users are mostly male, age 25-34 - Suno plans to be a $500 billion company - 25% of subscribers remain after 30 days - The company's vision hinges on “reducing the number of users who leave the service after joining” according to Billboard

• @opiumhum @opiumhum on x

  I've spent more money on buying music or on shows in the last two years alone.

• @kevinbrennanmp Kevin Brennan on x

  If you have 100 vinyl LPs in your record collection or a similar number of CDs - you as an individual will have spent as much in real terms on music as Suno - which has scrapped almost every piece of human created music on the internet

• @ednewtonrex Ed Newton-Rex on x

  As @daviddas pointed out to me, this means that 2.5 billion-dollar AI music company Suno has spent less money on music than many individual music fans

• @ednewtonrex Ed Newton-Rex on x

  Billboard got access to Suno's investment pitch deck. It revealed that Suno has spent $32 million on compute, and $2,000 on training data. Let that sink in. https://www.billboard.com/... [image]

• r/technology r on reddit

  Suno Creates an Entire Spotify Catalog's Worth of Music Every Two Weeks, Says Investor Pitch Deck for $250M Fundraise | …