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Thinking Machines Lab co-founder Andrew Tulloch has left to join Meta; he reportedly declined Zuckerberg's offer of a $1.5B+ package in August

Andrew Tulloch is the latest big-name AI researcher to join the social-media giant  —  A co-founder of Mira Murati's Thinking Machines Lab

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  • @shuweiyang1 Alex Yang on x
    Do you want to ship blog posts into the Singularity ? Or do you want to impact 2 billion people now. https://x.com/...
  • @seanecom Sean Frank on x
    For context- Single employees at meta are earning more than Tim Cook earned in his ENTIRE CAREER
  • @chatgpt21 Chris on x
    Zuck poached the CO founder of thinking machines. Seems like he's taking AI very seriously
  • @brycent_ @brycent_ on x
    Co-founding a BILLION DOLLAR startup and then sketching to a competitor is NASTY work
  • @becomingcritter @becomingcritter on x
    How the tables have turned [image]
  • @yuchenj_uw Yuchen Jin on x
    Few people realize that once you reach a certain level of wealth, money no longer drives your decisions. I really like Thinking Machines' openness about their research and hope they build cool products. Hopefully Andrew's departure won't slow them down.
  • @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x
    Zuck strikes again: Thinking Machines Lab Co-Founder, Andrew Tulloch, Departs for Meta. He previously declined a $1.3b offer [image]
  • @xeophon_ @xeophon_ on x
    he turned down a 1.5B offer earlier guess mark came with an even bigger suitcase full of cash [image]
  • @yuchenj_uw Yuchen Jin on x
    Rumor has it Andrew Tulloch returned to Meta because Zuck offered him $3.5B. I don't buy the “everyone has a price” argument. For him, $3.5B vs. $1.5B barely matters. Building something from scratch as a cofounder of Thinky sounds way more fun. Anyway, Llama 5's gonna be good.
  • @shakoistslog Shako on x
    leaving as co-founder is kind of degenerate, after you've convinced tons of people to believe in you and invest their time to work with you and join you.
  • @snoopy_dot_jpg @snoopy_dot_jpg on x
    lol. <1 year at both openai and thinking machines bet he delivered a lot of value
  • @felixohartmann Felix Hartmann on x
    This is bearish all around... Andrew makes himself a valueless mercenary Thinking Machines clearly isn't high optionality enough for him to stay Meta keeps plowing billions on individuals that could not give two shits about metas success Once upon a time they bought IG for a
  • @tbpn @tbpn on x
    Andrew has a long history with Meta. He had already turned down a $1B offer from Meta earlier this year. But previous to cofounding Thinking Machines in January — and his work at OpenAI before that — he had served an 11-year stint at Meta as a distinguished engineer.
  • @emostaque Emad on x
    The > $1.5 billion man 👀 [image]
  • @devahaz Deva Hazarika on x
    So either: Zuck said ok $1B wasn't enough, how does $5B sound? Or Tulloch read all the AI bubble tweets and thought hmmm actually fully liquid stock I can dump all of ASAP sounds pretty good after all Or He decided he just really wanted to work with Alexandr
  • @gauravisnotme Gaurav on x
    We are now in the era where salary scaling laws are prevailing over model scaling. We are already past Llama-3.2-3B.
  • @dalibali2 @dalibali2 on x
    Must feel amazing to be the first engineering hire that requires a full board of directors deliberation.
  • @theshamdoo @theshamdoo on x
    Imagine being this guy, able to reject a $1B offer from Meta. You can literally walk around virtually anywhere and know that you are with no debate, better than every single person in a 10-mile radius of you. What could they have possibly offered him this time better than $1B?
  • @sawyerhood Sawyer Hood on x
    they gotta rethink that recruiting pitch: “we are so mission driven zuck wasn't able to poach any of our researchers.”
  • @andrewcurran_ Andrew Curran on x
    People thought Mr Zuckerberg's reign of terror was over, but he has successfully lured Andrew Tulloch away from Mira. [image]
  • @ns123abc Nik on x
    Bro couldn't turn down $3.5 billion tho lol [image]
  • @vaibhavbetter Vaibhav Domkundwar on x
    Meta is better at buying companies and should stick to that?
  • @dejavucoder Sankalp on x
    mom how did we get so rich your daddy worked at meta for 11 years and then he fucked around and found out that he could boomerang after shopping at oai and thinky
  • @dorialexander Alexander Doria on x
    when 3.5b is not the number of parameters in an slm
  • @ai_for_success AshutoshShrivastava on x
    POV: Andrew Tulloch after joining Meta Superintelligence Labs from Thinking Labs. [image]
  • @iamhenrymascot Henry Mascot on x
    He's an early joiner not cofounder according to perplexity [image]
  • @zephyr_z9 @zephyr_z9 on x
    Andrew Tulloch, “the PyTorch King” is back at Meta He at least got a 2 Billion Dollar bag [image]
  • @danprimack Dan Primack on x
    VCs need to begin thinking about putting poison pills in term sheets.
  • @sinahartung Sina on x
    you're saying the guy who worked at meta for over 11 yrs, then shopped around w openai and thinky machines returns back home? shocker
  • @metacriticcap @metacriticcap on x
    $3.5B for a machine learning engineer Doubting my decision to pursue finance haha
  • @_arohan_ Rohan Anil on x
    That's insane to convince a cofounder of thinky to bail this fast.
  • @gabrielpeterss4 Gabriel on x
    i heard meta pays in robux
  • @keachhagey @keachhagey on x
    Andrew Tulloch, the star AI researcher and Thinking Machines Lab co-founder who turned down a $1bn offer from Meta earlier this year, has decided to join Meta after all. Scoop w/ @MeghanBobrowsky https://www.wsj.com/... via @WSJ
  • @taumuyi Tau-Mu Yi on bluesky
    Let's say the initial package was $1.5B over the equivalent of 3ys and then Mark had to double it to pry Andrew from #Thinking machines.  [embedded post]
  • r/singularity r on reddit
    Thinking Machines Lab Co-Founder, Andrew Tulloch,Departs for Meta.  He previously declined a $1.3b offer