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The RIAA amends its lawsuit against Suno, now accusing it of unlawfully “stream ripping” songs on YouTube and violating the DMCA

The updated complaint alleges that Suno knowingly circumvented YouTube's protections against unauthorized copying.

The Verge Jess Weatherbed

Context & Ripple Effects

The amended complaint extends the RIAA’s 2024 case alleging mass infringement by Suno and Udio, rather than creating a separate dispute. It adds an alleged acquisition path—copying from YouTube—to a case Suno and Udio had answered by characterizing training on proprietary music as fair use in their fair-use defense.

The claim also connects AI-model training to the music industry’s earlier campaign against YouTube stream-ripping services, several years after YouTube-MP3 settled and agreed to shut down in that enforcement case.

First-order effects

  • Suno must defend a broader complaint that now includes allegations of circumventing YouTube’s copying protections and violating the DMCA, alongside the original copyright claims.
  • The RIAA gains an additional asserted theory for challenging how Suno obtained music used in its service; these remain allegations, not findings.

Second-order effects

  • The amendment puts greater pressure on AI music developers to document both the source of training material and the technical means used to access it, not only their fair-use rationale.
  • It may give music rightsholders a more direct litigation framework for disputes involving music sourced from streaming platforms, where proof of copying and access controls becomes central.

Third-order effects

  • If courts engage with these claims, AI-training litigation could increasingly turn on data-acquisition practices as well as the legality of model training itself.
  • The dispute points toward a more contested boundary between platform access controls, copyright enforcement, and AI development, though the eventual standard will depend on the case’s outcome.

The trend: Copyright fights over generative AI are expanding from what models learn to how developers obtained the underlying material.

Discussion

  • MLex MLex on x
    Suno hit with amended ‘stream ripping’ complaint by music companies over AI-generated music
  • @ednewtonrex Ed Newton-Rex on x
    The major record labels had already accused Suno of copyright infringement on an “almost unimaginable scale”. Now, they've gone further - they allege Suno pirated their music by “stream-ripping” it from YouTube. https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/ ... [image]