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Anthropic requires users to accept new terms by September 28, including choosing whether new chats and coding sessions can be used to train AI models

by default for consumer versions … John Dolman : So the last bastion of not training on your data as a default falls.  —  Whilst I understand the use of user interaction to refine the model … Bluesky: Corey Quinn / @quinnypig.com : “Enough people have opted out that we're opting everyone back in and starting over.”  [embedded post] Nicolai B. Hansen / @nbhansen.dk : I'm accepting and will be to blame for your AI coding models swearing and trying to make systems like it's 1999 [embedded post] Forums: Hacker News : Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy Msmash / Slashdot : Anthropic Will Start Training Its AI Models on Chat Transcripts MacRumors Forums : Anthropic Will Now Train Claude on Your Chats, Here's How to Opt Out

Anthropic

Context & Ripple Effects

Anthropic’s updated terms formalize the consumer-data training approach reported a day earlier in its opt-out-based training policy. The change puts a user choice inside the account-terms flow rather than treating data use as a separate product setting.

It also joins a familiar pattern: Zoom revised its terms around AI-training data and Slack described default opt-in for some AI-powered features. The distinction between explicit consent, opt-out, and excluded content is becoming a product-policy differentiator.

First-order effects

  • Consumer users must accept the revised terms by September 28 and decide whether future chats and coding sessions may be used for model training; absent an opt-out, Anthropic can use that material for its consumer models.
  • Anthropic gains a defined consent mechanism and a continuing source of interaction data from users who remain in the default setting.

Second-order effects

  • The opt-out design makes privacy controls, defaults, and exclusions more visible points of comparison for competing AI services, particularly those handling chats and coding work.
  • Users who view training use as unacceptable may change how they use consumer AI tools—limiting sensitive prompts, opting out, or favoring services with different data terms—while those who accept contribute feedback-like inputs to model improvement.

Third-order effects

  • If similar policies spread, consumer AI data collection will increasingly be governed through consent architecture: default choices, renewal deadlines, and product-specific exclusions rather than a simple promise not to train on user content.
  • The resulting split between consumer and more tightly controlled use cases could make data-governance terms a durable basis for segmenting AI products, though the corpus does not establish how many users will opt out.

The trend: AI providers are turning user interactions into model-development inputs while making the design of consent and opt-out flows a central competitive and governance issue.

Discussion

  • @miles_brundage Miles Brundage on x
    The five year Anthropic data retention thing is so Claude 7 can resurrect you as you are today in 5 years if a bioweapon kills everyone next year + also so they have a time capsule of pre-AGI human values in case there is major drift
  • @simonw Simon Willison on x
    @claudeai If I opt in to this, is there any chance a future version of Claude could tell someone else a secret it learned from a document that I upload for summarization or similar?
  • @alexhardmond @alexhardmond on x
    @claudeai I allowed Claude to train on my code. I do pretty cool stuff occasionally so why not make the models better (:
  • @andrey__hq Andrey on x
    @claudeai This is honestly very good for both security but also training and letting Claude become smarter over time on a longer time horizon
  • @conor_d_dart Conor Dart on x
    @claudeai Great transparency
  • @claudeai Claude on x
    If you're a new user, you can select your preference in the signup process. Existing users will see the choice in a pop-up window like this one. You can change your choice at any time. [image]
  • @claudeai Claude on x
    These updates apply to users on our Claude Free, Pro, and Max plans, including their use of Claude Code. They do not apply to use of our API, Claude for Work, Claude for Education, or other commercial services.
  • @claudeai Claude on x
    By participating, you'll help us improve classifiers to make our models safer. You'll also help Claude improve at skills like coding, analysis, and reasoning, ultimately leading to better models for all users.
  • @claudeai Claude on x
    We're updating our consumer terms and privacy policy to help us deliver even more capable, useful AI models. Our users will now be given the choice to allow their data to be used to improve Claude.
  • @quinnypig.com Corey Quinn on bluesky
    “Enough people have opted out that we're opting everyone back in and starting over.”  [embedded post]
  • @nbhansen.dk Nicolai B. Hansen on bluesky
    I'm accepting and will be to blame for your AI coding models swearing and trying to make systems like it's 1999 [embedded post]