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Source: SoftBank plans to borrow $16B to invest in AI, and might borrow another $8B in early 2026, which could strain its already debt-heavy balance sheet

www.cnbc.com/2025/01/30/o... … Casey / @ig.ht : who on earth would loan this money knowing softbank is investing it in what seems to be the least profitable sector in existence [embedded post] Ed Zitron / @edzitron.com : Oh HELL YEAH baby.  This is the GOOD SHIT!  SoftBank committed $3bn annually to pay OpenAI for services, may have committed up to $25bn in funding to OpenAI's next round, and committed $19bn to co-found the Stargate Data Center with OpenAI.  If they're having to borrow this little that's concerning! [embedded post] Michael Love / @elkmovie : Masa Son gonna get another mortgage on his house just to have a little bit more money to throw into the AI hole Mastodon: @Kierkegaanks@beige.party : @Techmeme because they lost all their money on stupid investments X: Amir Efrati / @amir : is this what conviction looks like? Masa's SoftBank taking on tens of billions of dollars in debt to fund OpenAI/Stargate and other AI bets... [image]

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  • @sbyrnes Sean Byrnes on bluesky
    I've always wondered how they borrow against their balance sheet without having to discount their investments at the same time?  It means trading beta for potential alpha, but that has the long term effect of reducing the IRR.
  • @beardywheat Ben Wheat on bluesky
    Once again I ask how does SoftBank have any money which I guess is answered by “already debt-heavy balance sheet” [embedded post]
  • @zero-gravitas Andrew on bluesky
    May aswell burn that money for all the good it'll do.
  • @scottdracula @scottdracula on bluesky
    This seems like an incredibly fucking stupid gambit.
  • @afhstewart Alex Stewart on bluesky
    AI is basically setting money on fire but also catching the smoke in a plastic bag with which you then choke yourself [embedded post]
  • @edzitron.com Ed Zitron on bluesky
    Valuable detail this summary misses: OpenAI is raising from SoftBank at a $260 billion valuation, after it was reported less than a month ago that they were raising at a valuation “as high as $340 billion.  That is a dramatic - and concerning - shift downward.  —  www.cnbc.com/20…
  • @ig.ht Casey on bluesky
    who on earth would loan this money knowing softbank is investing it in what seems to be the least profitable sector in existence [embedded post]
  • @edzitron.com Ed Zitron on bluesky
    Oh HELL YEAH baby.  This is the GOOD SHIT!  SoftBank committed $3bn annually to pay OpenAI for services, may have committed up to $25bn in funding to OpenAI's next round, and committed $19bn to co-found the Stargate Data Center with OpenAI.  If they're having to borrow this littl…
  • @elkmovie Michael Love on bluesky
    Masa Son gonna get another mortgage on his house just to have a little bit more money to throw into the AI hole
  • @amir Amir Efrati on x
    is this what conviction looks like? Masa's SoftBank taking on tens of billions of dollars in debt to fund OpenAI/Stargate and other AI bets... [image]