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Spotify says The Joe Rogan Experience was its top US podcast for the fourth year running, followed by Call Her Daddy, and 33%+ of the top 50 podcasts had video

Streamer says more than one-third of top 50 podcasts in U.S. are now available as video episodes

Variety Todd Spangler

Context & Ripple Effects

Spotify's leading podcast franchise was first brought into the service as an exclusive in 2020, then returned to broader podcast-platform distribution and YouTube video under a new 2024 deal. This ranking shows that wider availability did not dislodge its position in Spotify's U.S. audience.

The platform had also exposed creator follower counts in its TikTok-like redesign, including Rogan's 14.5 million followers and Call Her Daddy's 3.7 million. The growing video share among top shows makes Spotify's podcast rankings a measure of format strategy as well as audio listenership.

First-order effects

  • Spotify can use the continued lead of The Joe Rogan Experience and the runner-up position of Call Her Daddy to validate its marquee podcast programming.
  • More than a third of the top 50 U.S. shows being available in video gives leading creators and Spotify an immediate reason to package podcast releases for both viewing and listening.

Second-order effects

  • Creators seeking top-chart visibility face stronger pressure to add video workflows and distribution, while podcast platforms must compete on video playback, discovery and creator tools rather than audio catalogs alone.
  • Rogan's cross-platform availability means Spotify's advantage depends less on exclusive access to the show and more on retaining audiences through its product experience and chart-driven discovery.

Third-order effects

  • If video availability continues to correlate with the upper tier of podcast charts, podcasting is likely to consolidate into a hybrid audio-video category, raising production and platform-tooling expectations for creators.
  • The shift also tests whether open distribution weakens content exclusivity as a platform moat and moves competition toward audience data, discovery and viewing experience.

The trend: Podcast platforms are turning top-chart competition into a video-led battle for creator distribution, discovery and audience retention.

Discussion

  • @shona Shona Ghosh on bluesky
    My main question here is, how do this many people have the time? [embedded post]