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• @stroughtonsmith … Steve Troughton-Smith on mastodon

  The writing is on the wall for the Apple-style closed App Store model, even if it takes a thousand cuts to get there.  —  Either you create a new model, or one will be forcefully applied to you against your will. …

• @elkmovie@mastodon.social Michael Love on mastodon

  This is fantastic news, going way beyond what Apple v Epic required.  And will solve a big practical problem for me, namely that people get unofficial mirrored Play versions of Pleco from Chinese app stores, can't use Play IAP + I can't link to another method.  —  https://www.mac…

• @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x

  Big news! The Epic Games Store and other app stores are coming to the Google Play Store in 2025 in the USA - without Google's scare screens and Google's 30% app tax - thanks to victory in Epic v Google. https://www.theverge.com/...

• @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x

  The Google Play Store injunction lasts for 3 years. This means all app developers, store makers, carriers, and manufacturers have 3 years to build a vibrant and competitive Android ecosystem with such critical mass that Google can't stop it.

• @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x

  The Court's injunction applies to the United States only, so the legal and regulatory battle will continue around the world.

• @lutherlowe Luther Lowe on x

  Thank you @TimSweeneyEpic. 💪

• @natejhake Nate Hake on x

  I can't stop laughing at this: A federal judge has accused Google of submitting “unhelpful” spammy content to the court 🤣

• @munster_gene Gene Munster on x

  Google is in a great spot long-term.  The ruling will have little effect on the distribution of Android and the Play Store is too small to matter.  What matters is Google has a pole position in the AI race.  Concern that the Search business will be displaced by AI diminishes mont…

• @munster_gene Gene Munster on x

  3 Takeaways: 1)...In other words, this is a ~1-2% hit to operating income, as reflected in shares of GOOG down 2%.  2) After a year passes, the comps will be reset and the Play Store will likely start to grow again.  3) $AAPL likely won their case against Epic, and Google lost, b…

• @jason_kint Jason Kint on x

  Big time congrats to Epic on this outcome. They've fought the good fight with the facts and law on their side against the mighty Google.

• @balancecrafting @balancecrafting on x

  A monopolist “may become less incentivized to compete after it achieves market power and build[ ] a moat insulating itself from competition.” - @FTC amicus brief in Epic v Google #antitrust case “The injunction must bridge the moat.” - Judge Donato https://www.courtlistener.com/ …

• @balancecrafting @balancecrafting on x

  Most striking thing about Judge Donato's order in Epic v Google is how *short* the time period for relief is: only three years. Not surprising re technical remedies (e.g. let competing app stores access Play catalog) since he previewed in hearing, but... https://www.courtlistener…

• @balancecrafting @balancecrafting on x

  Great smackdown of Google's irrelevant citations to Trinko by Judge Donato in Epic v Google #antitrust permanent injunction today. Common sense that you can order a guilty party to do things you couldn't order an innocent person to do. https://www.courtlistener.com/ ... [image]

• @khushitavasant @khushitavasant on x

  California judge James Donato has scathing words for @Google as he lays out the remedy in Play Store #Antitrust case. “Google has, on several occasions, fired a blunderbuss of comments and complaints that are underdeveloped and consequently unhelpful in deciding the issues.” [ima…

• @wavesblog Simonetta Vezzoso on x

  “... the permanent injunction is limited to the United States...agencies around the world are investigating Google's conduct with respect to the Play Store” 📣📣agencies, time to start your own investigation if you haven't yet [also time for international antitrust law?]

• @ddayen David Dayen on x

  Moments after a federal judge in Epic v. Google issues a remedy order requiring Google to allow rival app stores, top Democrat on the House Antitrust Subcommittee Lou Correa warns the Justice Department not to go too far proposing a remedy in its successful antitrust case: [image…

• @balancecrafting @balancecrafting on x

  You can see how well Google's strategy of endlessly whining about Communism in its closing arguments worked on Judge Donato... https://www.courtlistener.com/ ... [image]

• @wavesblog Simonetta Vezzoso on x

  “Like Apple, Google now hopes the appeals court will press pause on Judge Donato's order while it tries its luck again. Apple spent years delaying the anti-steering rules change with its legal appeals”

• @jason_kint Jason Kint on x

  Ka-Boom. Federal court just issued remedy for Google's app store monopoly (found liable by jury earlier this year). Note: this is on the eve of US DOJ posting its remedy framework for Google's monopolies in Search and Search text ads. And yes, adtech opinion to come... /1 [image]

• @jason_kint Jason Kint on x

  Now let's get to the full court order which is a bit of doozy and beat down for Google after it already was found liable by a unanimous jury which will be hard to overturn. “Google...fired a blunderbuss of comments and complaints...unhelpful in deciding the issues.” /4 [image]

• @mishaalrahman Mishaal Rahman on x

  @bilalbfarooq Unironically, you can't be anticompetitive if you didn't allow competition in the first place. iOS never allowed 3P app stores, so Apple never had to take any actions that could be deemed anticompetitive to favor the App Store.

• @amandalws Amanda Lewis on x

  Key point in Epic v. Google Remedy Order: “Although Google may legitimately claim some early mover advantage, it was not entitled to maintain and magnify network effects, and thereby entrench its dominant position, through the anticompetitive conduct found by the jury.”

• @eric_seufert Eric Seufert on x

  The judge in the Epic v. Google case has granted injunctive relief.  Among other things, Google cannot pay developers to launch exclusively on Google Play, it cannot pay OEMs to not pre-install third-party app stores, and it must make the full catalog of Play Store apps available…

• @tomwarren Tom Warren on x

  Google must crack open Android for third-party stores, rules Epic judge. Google must give rival third-party app stores access to the full catalog of Google Play apps — and distribute third-party stores https://www.theverge.com/...

• @mishaalrahman Mishaal Rahman on x

  Breaking: the Judge in the Epic v Google case has just issued his final ruling, which states that Google must open up its Play Store catalog to 3P app stores and distribute those 3P app stores within Google Play. The judge also ruled that Google can't require Google Play app [ima…

• r/fuckepic r on reddit

  Google must crack open Android for third-party stores, rules Epic judge

• r/technology r on reddit

  US judge orders Google to open up Google Play to rivals

• r/gamingnews r on reddit

  Google must crack open Android for third-party stores, rules Epic judge

• r/technews r on reddit

  Google must crack open Android for third-party stores, rules Epic judge

• r/Games r on reddit

  Google ordered to open Android app store in Epic Games trial

• r/androiddev r on reddit

  Google must crack open Android for third-party stores, rules Epic judge

• r/google r on reddit

  Google must crack open Android for third-party stores, rules Epic judge

• r/Android r on reddit

  Google must crack open Android for third-party stores, rules Epic judge