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• @lorakolodny Lora Kolodny on threads

  i cannot tell you how big the backlash would be in the USA if government suspended a social network temporarily BUT also charged people hige fines for using vpns or other means of accessing the banned platform. but it would be mayhem. this i believe. https://www.cnbc.com/...

• @andrealessi André Alessi on threads

  Hours after the judge's order to ban access to Twitter in Brasil was published, Bluesky's servers are getting hammered.

• @the.morning.constitutional @the.morning.constitutional on threads

  It's interesting how Elon Musk's position on this issue depends on whether he agrees with a country's politics or not.

• @lorakolodny Lora Kolodny on threads

  It's not solely for failure to comply with this one rule - there's a longer history of X at Musk's direction defying Brazil supreme court orders including to take down accounts that were posting political misinformation and content aimed at harming democratic institutions in Braz…

• @quillmatiq Anuj Ahooja on threads

  Your favorite social network could make decisions that make it impossible to use the service where you live.  If that happens, you lose not only access to the site but, more importantly, the community you worked so hard to build. …

• @johannes.ernst Johannes Ernst on threads

  And so it begins.  —  https://apnews.com/...

• @crumbler Casey Newton on threads

  It's a big week for tech CEOs learning you actually have to pay attention when the government demands something from you.  (Even in cases like this where the court's motives are complicated and not entirely pure)  —  RE: https://www.threads.net/...

• @bsky.app @bsky.app on bluesky

  Brazil, you're setting new all-time-highs for activity on Bluesky!  🥇  —  Brasil, você está estabelecendo novos recordes de atividade no Bluesky!  🥇

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  Free speech is the bedrock of democracy and an unelected pseudo-judge in Brazil is destroying it for political purposes

• @albertwenger Albert Wenger on x

  A good reason for bullding decentralized networks, but we also urgently need a better discussion about moderation on social networks, see https://x.com/...

• @binarybits Timothy B. Lee on x

  Hopefully this is obvious but: 1. The US has the first amendment, which is rigorously upheld by the judiciary. 2. The Supreme Court has a 6-3 conservative majority. There is zero chance of Twitter being shut down or significantly censored under a Harris administration.

• @prestonjbyrne Preston Byrne on x

  This thing with X being banned in Brazil is the big one. This is it. If Brazil succeeds in beating X, the EU, UK, Australia, Canada will ban X next. If X beats Brazil, censorship regimes around the world will be shown to be toothless vs Americans, and rapidly fall.

• @bluesky @bluesky on x

  this is what a social network looks like without brazil https://bsky.app/... [image]

• @brendancarrfcc Brendan Carr on x

  On Brazilian Justice de Moreas's order shutting down X: The text of his 51-page decision is far more concerning and sweeping than the headlines suggest. de Moreas's own words make clear that he is attempting to strike a broader blow against free speech and in favor of

• @shaunmmaguire Shaun Maguire on x

  The west is 3 months away from being lost Canada, France and Brazil are already gone

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  They're shutting down the #1 source of truth in Brazil

• @shaunmmaguire Shaun Maguire on x

  In the same week we had the owner of Telegram get arrested in France And X get banned in Brazil, with broader threats against Elon's other company's Free speech is very much under attack

• @levelsio @levelsio on x

  This is so insane: - Brazil has banned X - Brazil will fine anyone $8,000 per day if they see them use X via VPN Brazilians fight back against this! 🇧🇷💪 Lutem!

• @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x

  I believe in liberty, in free speech, and in due process of law, all of which are under threat around the world. If Brazilians are indeed outcast from this public forum by their government in the next 24 hours, remember what they took from you. May we meet again in better times!

• @x @x on x

  power to the people in 🇧🇷 & everywhere else

• @jihoz_axie @jihoz_axie on x

  It's a sad day for our Brazilian community. I'm sure they will be back soon. In the meantime, what's the best whatsapp group for me to join to hang out with you all? DM me on Discord. My discord is open.

• @adamscochran Adam Cochran on x

  ...what? Guys, countries have laws. Private companies who want to operate in that market need to follow those laws. When you repeatedly break those, you don't get to operate there.. Not every fucking thing is some wild crusade or global conspiracy.

• @notgwendalupe @notgwendalupe on x

  Brazil, i'll see you guys in Excel [image]

• @davidmackau David Mack on x

  rip “come to brazil” (2006-2024)

• @chrchristensen Christian Christensen on x

  Musk: “Twitter follows the laws of the countries it works in.” Brazil: “Thanks. Here is our law.” Musk: “I refuse to recognise that law and will use my wealth and power to smear and undermine your country.”

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  Just a reminder that you can always access this platform via https://x.com/, even on your phone. No app is needed. Now would also be a good time to download a VPN in case you get blocked.

• @lindayax Linda Yaccarino on x

  This is a sad day for X users around the world, especially those in Brazil, who are being denied access to our platform. I wish it did not have to come to this - it breaks my heart. The Brazilian Constitution says, “Any and all censorship of a political, ideological and artistic

• @shaunmmaguire Shaun Maguire on x

  Democracy is dying before our eyes Fight now, before it's too late

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  musk going head to head with Brazilian judge by pulling the service offline reminds of meta playbook in Australia with its “pay for news” stalemate (the plan is to get users to be mad enough that they push back against the government on the company's behalf) well-trodden path

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  The expression of support from the US embassy is appreciated. Indeed, without free speech, the public cannot express their thoughts or know the truth of the situation, making it impossible to vote with accurate knowledge.

• @chrchristensen Christian Christensen on x

  Interesting how the only “Orwellian” laws Musk hates are the ones he doesn't like in countries he's willing to criticise: UK, France, Brazil. Yet he's spectacularly silent about far more repressive laws in countries like China, Turkey, India and X investor Saudi Arabia.

• @brndxix @brndxix on x

  learning that twitter is getting shut down because political disinformation is illegal in brazil makes this so much funnier [image]

• @bluesky @bluesky on x

  it's easier to DM on bluesky than on excel🫡 follow @notgwendalupe on bsky here: https://notgwendalupe.bsky.social/ https://bsky.app/...

• @ianbremmer Ian Bremmer on x

  brazil supreme court banning twitter/x is domestic political boost for bolsonaro (who hadn't been doing well of late).

• @willguyatt Will Guyatt on x

  Looks like the Brazilian regulator now has to force ISPs to block X within 24 hours. They are also threatening fines to consumers using VPNs to access it....

• @dcurtis Dustin Curtis on x

  The “X is the real and only truth, and all other information is lies” talk from Musk and others on this platform is extremely dangerous and Orwellian. In fact, it's even worse than 1984. In the book, truth was what the party said the truth was — it was organized propaganda,

• @djrothkopf David Rothkopf on x

  Wouldn't it be nice if this were just a preview of things to come and the proprietor here was finally about to enter the FAFO phase of his life.

• @matthiasellis Matthew Ellis on x

  Wait. Glenn Greenwald lives in Brazil lmfao

• @zedonarrival @zedonarrival on x

  watching all the brazil stan accounts say their goodbyes like it's the thanos snap

• @chrchristensen Christian Christensen on x

  You know what's really “Orwellian”? The richest man in the world using his private global media platform to convince people that left-wing Social Democrat Orwell was a right-wing Libertarian.

• r/worldnews r on reddit

  Musk's X suspended in Brazil after disinformation row

• r/NPR r on reddit

  Brazil starts blocking social media platform X amid a dispute with Elon Musk

• r/teslainvestorsclub r on reddit

  Brazilian court orders suspension of Elon Musk's X after it missed deadline |  X

• r/Journalism r on reddit

  Brazilian court orders suspension of Elon Musk's X after it missed deadline

• r/EnoughMuskSpam r on reddit

  Brazilian judge suspends X platform after it refuses to name a legal representative

• r/technology r on reddit

  Brazilian judge suspends X platform after it refuses to name a legal representative

• r/technews r on reddit

  X to be banned in Brazil

• r/elonmusk r on reddit

  Brazilian court orders suspension of Elon Musk's X after it missed deadline

• r/news r on reddit

  Brazilian court orders suspension of Elon Musk's X after it missed deadline

• r/InternationalNews r on reddit

  Brazilian court orders suspension of Elon Musk's X after it missed deadline

• r/Fauxmoi r on reddit

  Brazilian court orders suspension of Elon Musk's X after it missed deadline

• r/musked r on reddit

  Brazil's Supreme Court orders suspension of Elon Musk's X

• r/law r on reddit

  Brazilian judge suspends X platform after it refuses to name a legal representative

• r/Twitter r on reddit

  Brazilian judge suspends X platform after it refuses to name a legal representative

• r/worldnews r on reddit

  Judge Bans X in Brazil After Musk Refuses to Name Representative

• @celozaga Celo Zaga on threads

  Bluesky is TOP 1 in the Brazil App Store, Twitter users don't really trust Meta after all.

• @lorakolodny Lora Kolodny on threads

  Quoting from g1 globo, Brazil-based news site so you can see it's not just my reading: “Initially, Moraes gave a deadline of 5 days for companies like Apple and Google to stop offering the X app in their online stores.  The text also stated that these companies should not allow V…

• @igb@mastodon.hccp.org @igb@mastodon.hccp.org on mastodon

  This is what's known in the industry as a “reverse Orkut”.  —  https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @jasonycw.github.io Jason Yu on bluesky

  I guess we'll see a lot more activities here and #Threads for the #BrazilGP this year.  —  #F1 teams' admins and drivers remember to add the $9K/day expenses for that weekend to keep posting on #Twitter 😂 [embedded post]

• @lorak.bsky.social Lora Kolodny on bluesky

  “...The suspension of this part, in his view, avoids any unnecessary and reversible disruptions to other companies.” noticias.stf.jus.br/postsnoticia... scroll to the end ^ for link to 2nd order filing which you need to translate from Brazilian Portuguese unless you speak this be…

• @lorak.bsky.social Lora Kolodny on bluesky

  “...removing it from their virtual stores, as well as applications that allow the use of VPN.In a new decision, Minister Alexandre suspended this section due to the possibility of ‘X Brasil’ making a statement in the proceedings and fully complying with the court orders...

• @lorak.bsky.social Lora Kolodny on bluesky

  From the STF's press release on its second order (suspending X in Brazil) using Google translate from Portuguese to English: “The rapporteur had initially ordered Apple and Google to adopt obstacles to prevent the use of the X application on iOS and Android systems, in addition t…

• @lorak.bsky.social Lora Kolodny on bluesky

  Updated this story.  STF, Brazil's highest court, issued a second order suspending some measures from the first order.  X is still suspended in Brazil, but the court is not requiring app stores to block users from downloading X, and to block certain VPN downloads, in 5 days' time…

• @mmasnick.bsky.social Mike Masnick on bluesky

  Okay, here's my writeup of the Brazilian block order (yes, including the *temporary* amendment suspending the VPN block).  It's still absolutely crazy.  No one should be in favor of this. www.techdirt.com/2024/08/30/ b...

• @kenwhite.bsky.social @kenwhite.bsky.social on bluesky

  /2 I should say, is defensible if the site does business in that country.  Not, I think, if it doesn't.

• @kenwhite.bsky.social @kenwhite.bsky.social on bluesky

  Imposing consequences on a web site for breaking a country's laws is defensible.  Imposing consequences on citizens of the country for trying to access the web site strikes me as pretty totalitarian.  —  Like imagine if the TikTok ban was followed up by a law making it illegal to…

• @cathygellis.bsky.social Cathy Gellis on bluesky

  No matter what you think of Musk, such a penalty for USING A MEDIUM TO COMMUNICATE is not consistent with a free society.  [embedded post]

• @mmasnick.bsky.social Mike Masnick on bluesky

  So, even more bizarre... a week ago, Apple appeared to block a bunch of VPNs in the App Store in Brazil with some suggestion it may have been connected to this.  But... that was a week ago. www.technadu.com/35-vpn-repor...  [embedded post]

• @sarahemclaugh.bsky.social Sarah McLaughlin on bluesky

  Brazil blocked X today and Justice Moraes is threatening “that anyone caught using a VPN to gain access to X in Brazil would face a fine of nearly $9,000 a day.”

• @cb_doge @cb_doge on x

  Brazil has fallen. The Supreme Court orders the suspension of 𝕏. → 𝕏 to be taken down in 24 hours. → AppStore and PlayStore have been told to remove the 𝕏 app within 5 days. → Anyone using 𝕏 via VPN will face fines of up to ~$8,800 [image]

• @brucedaisley Bruce Daisley on x

  A serious escalation here. If you use a VPN to continue using X in Brazil there's a daily fine of £6750 coming your way.

• @ggreenwald Glenn Greenwald on x

  The group of countries that Brazil is about to join in banning the use of VPN's to access prohibited sites: [image]

• @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x

  That 5-day countdown now begins. Will the Apple App Store start blocking Twitter? Will Google Play Store? History is watching.

• @sallymayweather @sallymayweather on x

  Set your VPNs to Brazil. Overload the censors.

• @george_chen George Chen on x

  Can you still use VPN to access X in Brazil? Otherwise I guess Brazil will soon need to ask China for help to install Great Firewall nationwide. X has a lot to improve but free speech and free internet are now also under attack. Ban is simply not the solution to the problem.

• @marionawfal Mario Nawfal on x

  🚨🇧🇷DE MORAES ORDERS GOOGLE AND APPLE TO REMOVE X FROM APP STORES IN BRAZIL In a continued assault on free speech and in his decision to ban X across Brazil, De Moraes also ordered Google and Apple to remove the media platform from their app stores in the country within 5 days. [i…

• @ggreenwald Glenn Greenwald on x

  In his original order banning X, Brazil's authoritarian censorship judge Moraes ordered Apple and Google not only to ban X from their stores, but also ban all VPN programs. Now he retreated on that, but using VPNs to access X in Brazil is still illegal, with a $10k/day fine:

• @mysk_co @mysk_co on x

  @TimSweeneyEpic X has a great Progressive Web App (PWA). All you need to get it to work is a VPN app, which can also be taken down by the App Store or Google Play.

• @yashar Yashar Ali on x

  This is outrageous... The New York Times confirms that the Brazilian judge who has ordered the suspension of X/Twitter has also said that anyone caught using a VPN to gain access to X in Brazil would face a fine of nearly $9,000 a day. Threatening people with penalties for

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  The oppressive regime in Brazil is so afraid of the people learning the truth that they will bankrupt anyone who tries

• @marionawfal Mario Nawfal on x

  🚨🇧🇷 BREAKING: BRAZIL SUPREME COURT AUTHORIZES VPN USE, MAINTAINS FINES FOR ACCESSING X Minister Alexandre de Moraes of Brazil's Supreme Court reversed his decision to block VPNs, allowing Apple and Google to keep VPN apps available. However, the daily fine of R$50,000 for [image]

• @chrispavlovski Chris Pavlovski on x

  @TimSweeneyEpic Big moment. Google will definitely fold, but I have hope that Apple won't. Tim, DM me if you read this. I'm the CEO of Rumble.

• @ggreenwald Glenn Greenwald on x

  BREAKING: Brazil's authoritarian censorship judge, Alexandre de Moraes, orders X banned in all of Brazil within 24 hours. Also ordered Google and Apple to remove X from its stores within 5 days.

• @chrispavlovski Chris Pavlovski on x

  Brazil no longer has Rumble and from media reports, they will no longer have X. World powers don't want Rumble, they don't want X, they don't want Telegram. They want to control information and our companies do not allow them to. There are no other large companies fighting for

• @ggreenwald Glenn Greenwald on x

  !!!! In addition to ordering X banned in all of Brazil, Moraes also banned any citizens from accessing X using a VPN. He said any citizen found to access X in Brazil using a VPN, they will be fined US$ 10,000 per day. The pure face of tyranny: [image]

• r/BlueskySocial r on reddit

  Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky |  The Verge

• r/inthenews r on reddit

  Brazil Blocks X After Musk Ignores Court Orders