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• @brian.fishman.5 Brian Fishman on threads

  This is really interesting and potentially very important.  I've no idea what's going on here, but Telegram is uniquely problematic in a variety of ways. https://www.bbc.com/...

• @camwilsonreporter Cameron Wilson on threads

  a big move to arrest a CEO of a platform but it really can't be understated how much damage is facilitated by Telegram.  The most extreme hate communities, criminal enterprises, etc, have made their home their because Telegram is largely unmoderated and works better than most alt…

• @mrkevinrothrock Kevin Rothrock on threads

  Durov's arrest in Paris provokes sweeping claims about and comparisons between Russian and European Internet regulations and censorship.  My two cents: be mindful about whom you're reading.  It's much easier to be loud on this than informed.

• @chris Chris Messina on threads

  Telegram CEO arrested in France.

• @ton_blockchain Ton on x

  Statement from the TON Community Following the recent news related to the Telegram's founder Pavel Durov, we want to assure everyone that the TON community remains strong and fully operational. As a community committed to freedom of speech and decentralization, we stand firmly

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  POV: It's 2030 in Europe and you're being executed for liking a meme

• @tuckercarlson Tucker Carlson on x

  Pavel Durov left Russia when the government tried to control his social media company, Telegram. But in the end, it wasn't Putin who arrested him for allowing the public to exercise free speech. It was a western country, a Biden administration ally and enthusiastic NATO member,

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  Liberté Liberté! Liberté?

• @snowden Edward Snowden on x

  The arrest of @Durov is an assault on the basic human rights of speech and association. I am surprised and deeply saddened that Macron has descended to the level of taking hostages as a means for gaining access to private communications. It lowers not only France, but the world.

• @daancrypto @daancrypto on x

  $TON Price fell -20% and Open Interest increased by +55% after the news hit that the Durov, the Founder and CEO of Telegram & TON got detained in France. Most of these are undoubtedly shorts/hedges. First off, always be careful catching a falling knife. I do think some of these […

• @jsrailton John Scott-Railton on x

  BREAKING: #Telegram CEO Pavel Durov arrested by French authorities. Early official comments to French media suggest this follows from France's displeasure with Telegram's moderation & compliance with official requests(?). If so, I'm pretty sure this is an unprecedented action [im…

• @chrispavlovski Chris Pavlovski on x

  I'm a little late to this, but for good reason — I've just safely departed from Europe. France has threatened Rumble, and now they have crossed a red line by arresting Telegram's CEO, Pavel Durov, reportedly for not censoring speech. Rumble will not stand for this behavior and

• @balajis Balaji on x

  Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested in France. His “crime” appears to be enabling free speech online. https://www.thesun.co.uk/... [image]

• @balajis Balaji on x

  This is another battle in the struggle between Network and State. Can failing states stop the decentralized network? Hopefully not. But they will keep escalating with this type of show trial.

• @micsolana Mike Solana on x

  telegram founder arrested in france for “lack of moderation.” wild, because i could have sworn yann lecun said the country had “free speech.” globalist tyranny continues to escalate. europe is no longer a safe continent for anyone working on anything meaningful. [image]

• @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x

  Billionaire Pavel Durov, the founder and CEO of Telegram, has been arrested in France. French authorities believe that Telegram's lack of moderation, not collaborating with law enforcement, use of anonymity and crypto make it an accomplice in drug trafficking, CSAM and fraud. [im…

• @kevincollier Kevin Collier on x

  Impossible to deny that Telegram's near-total lack of moderation has allowed criminality to thrive on the platform, but this is still astounding and unprecedented.

• @bostonjoan @bostonjoan on x

  This arrest could change everything for communications in Europe and beyond. Telegram is run by a very small team and that's a high risk if authorities arrest the CEO and investigate the platform for enabling criminal activity.

• @matthew_d_green Matthew Green on x

  Pavel Durov, CEO of Telegram, has reportedly been arrested in France. The charges are allegedly due to the lack of moderators on the platform allowing criminal activity to take place there. https://www.reuters.com/...

• @matthew_d_green Matthew Green on x

  I have a lot of issues with Telegram and I wouldn't be shocked if there's some bad stuff going on there. But this is an awful move by France and is not going to have the effect they want.

• @mike_salter Michael Salter on x

  Our research found that Australian child sex offenders are 10x more likely to use Telegram. Now the CEO has been detained in France, apparently under investigation for his app's facilitation of criminal offences, including child sexual abuse. You do love to see it.

• @adamscochran Adam Cochran on x

  Any actual filing on the Telegram cofounder arrest? So far I've only seen wild speculation as to the reason, but, nothing concrete. If this is liability for bad KYC/AML on their wallet app it likely gets settled. If this is something more direct, then it'd actually be bad (for

• @privacymatters @privacymatters on x

  Threats to arrest staff are not new. It happened during the ‘Arab Spring’ when the Egyptian government allegedly threatened to arrest Vodafone employees if the company did not do as asked of it. Search it.

• @adamscochran Adam Cochran on x

  This will ultimately come down to the difference between: “It was happening on his platform and he didn't do enough to prevent it” Vs “It was happening on his platform he knew about explicit cases and turned a blind eye or even fostered it” Two very different legal nuances.

• @jason @jason on x

  “Lack of moderation” feels like something is getting lost in translation here. In France it's well established that encrypted apps are allowed, but you have to keep metadata and decrypt in the case of terrorism/national security correct? Pavel must have known this — wonder

• @jtlonsdale Joe Lonsdale on x

  This is terrible and reflects a huge fork in the road; it's all part of the same battle. The growing totalitarianism in the UK and EU is in line with the US left's earlier disinfo NGOs, and Walz's comments on banning misinfo. If they appoint more judges here, we could be next.

• @etbrooking Emerson T. Brooking on x

  Nothing like this has happened before. And while we will soon learn more, it sounds like the contours of this complaint could be applied to most American tech CEO's. A severe challenge for DSA enforcement and dangerous precedent for digital rights.

• @prestonjbyrne Preston Byrne on x

  If you run a social media company, don't leave the United States, don't hire outside the United States, don't rely on anything outside the United States. The rest of the world is willing to jail you in order to censor your users.

• @intangiblecoins Alex Thorn on x

  my guess is they will allege noncompliance by telegram w/ EU's digital services act (DSA), a very bad law that holds platforms liable for illegal user content that liability contrasts w/ Section 230 in USA, which exempts platforms from liability for user content.. long live 🇺🇸

• @jamesrbuk James Ball on x

  A major European country has reportedly arrested the CEO of a major online communications platform. Needless to say, this is big and has potentially huge ramifications. But it's not Starmer vs Musk...

• @kirillzzy Kirill Avery on x

  as much as i usually don't agree with tucker, he's right here pavel is one of the greatest entrepreneurs alive, so sad this is happening

• @bantg @bantg on x

  first they came for telegram, and i did not speak out— because i used signal. then they came for signal, and i did not speak out— because i used email. then they came for https, and i did not speak out— because i thought http was enough. then they came for dns, and i did not

• @clownworld_ @clownworld_ on x

  BREAKING: Pavel Durov, the founder of Telegram, arrested in France and facing 20 years in jail for refusing to censor his platform. The charges include terrorism, money laundering, and more—looks like they're targeting anyone who defends free speech. [image]

• @moxie Moxie Marlinspike on x

  @micsolana The challenge with this story is that Durov is a fraud and a liar. It's totally possible for that to be true *and* for Europe to be the forefront of global tyranny, but given the former it might be worth waiting a sec to read the complaint

• @woonomic Willy Woo on x

  George Orwell was 40 years early in his prediction, we needed the advent of widespread social media before his 1984 vision could be executed. The moment it became technically possible, the power hungry went for it.

• @bantg @bantg on x

  telegram founder arrested in france and held responsible for other people using his messenger doing crimes. we have another tornado cash case on our hands. safe harbor laws don't apply anymore? eu holding a ceo as hostage instead of going for actual criminals.

• @mualphaxi Max Meyer on x

  The French government arrested Pavel Durov for not having “moderators” in his ENCRYPTED MESSAGING APP Private communication is now a crime in Europe, apparently. [image]

• @yashar Yashar Ali on x

  NEWS CNN has confirmed that French authorities have detained Pavel Durov, the French-Russian billionaire who founded the messaging app Telegram, at an airport outside Paris. Durov, 39, was wanted under a French arrest warrant due to the lack of moderation on Telegram which [image…

• @imposecost Andrew Thompson on x

  I'm always interested in these kinds of cases. Can you imagine Mark Zuckerberg getting arrested due to content posted on Facebook?

• @paulg Paul Graham on x

  It's hard to imagine a country both arresting the founder of Telegram and being a major startup hub.

• @defiignas Ignas on x

  @bantg Crazy he is charged with “terrorism, drugs, complicity, fraud, money laundering, concealment, paedophile content...” [image]

• @0xmert_ Mert on x

  the french arrested the ceo of telegram for not leaking user chats weeks after the british started arresting people for saying potentially mean things on the internet we're up against the nastiest of bureaucrats who have zero respect for individuals crypto must win [image]

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