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A look at Apple Podcasts' fading dominance, as an April 2024 study of 603 podcast consumers found 31% use YouTube, 21% use Spotify, and 12% use Apple's app

Hello!  Welcome back to Soundbite.  Today we're looking at the fading dominance of Apple Podcasts.

Bloomberg Ashley Carman

Context & Ripple Effects

Apple's position in podcasting had already been complicated by a change to automatic episode downloads that cut reported downloads for some major shows, making platform metrics more consequential for publishers and advertisers.

The survey adds a consumer-use signal to competition that Spotify had been pursuing through podcast advertising and video investments. It also sits against Apple's earlier report of strong subscription growth, suggesting subscriptions and primary listening habits need not move in lockstep.

First-order effects

  • The study places Apple Podcasts well behind YouTube and Spotify in reported use among its 603 respondents, weakening Apple’s claim to be the default podcast destination.
  • YouTube and Spotify gain a clearer audience-distribution argument when pitching podcast publishers, creators, and advertisers.

Second-order effects

  • Publishers are likely to treat Apple distribution as one channel in a broader release strategy rather than as the presumptive primary endpoint, increasing the importance of platform-specific audience data.
  • Apple faces greater pressure to improve discovery, creator economics, and measurement, while rivals can use their larger reported usage to compete for exclusive shows and advertising demand.

Third-order effects

  • If listeners continue to fragment across platforms, podcast success will be measured less by Apple-centric download totals and more by comparable cross-platform reach and engagement measures.
  • The market could shift from an audio-app hierarchy toward competition among broader media platforms, where video, advertising tools, subscriptions, and discovery systems are bundled together.

The trend: Podcast distribution is moving from Apple’s download-led model toward a multi-platform contest shaped by audience reach, discovery, and monetization capabilities.

Discussion

  • @simondowens Simon Owens on threads
    Apple had something like a 12-year lead as the dominant podcast player, but it was just so obvious that the company's executives had no interest in investing in the product.  This allowed Spotify and YouTube to move in and snatch up a huge portion of the podcast audience. …
  • @ashleyrcarman Ashley Carman on x
    The reasons for this vary, but the biggest is likely the transition from an audio-only medium to video, too. Some of the buzziest shows are hosted by creators who blur the line between podcaster and YouTuber. [image]
  • @ashleyrcarman Ashley Carman on x
    Apple popularized podcasts nearly 20 years ago when it introduced the format to iTunes. But the original podcast distributor is now quickly losing market share to YouTube and Spotify, relatively newer entrants to the field. See this chart! [image]