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Reddit says it will update its robots.txt to make “as clear as possible” that companies “using an automated agent to access Reddit” need to abide by its terms

The warning comes after reports that AI companies regularly ignore instructions not to scrape.

Engadget Karissa Bell

Context & Ripple Effects

Reddit’s warning turns a largely voluntary crawler convention into a clearer statement of access terms for automated agents. It follows debate over robots.txt as a goodwill-based crawler convention that is ill-suited to managing AI data collection.

The practical stakes emerged soon after: related coverage said Bing stopped crawling Reddit after a robots.txt update. That makes crawler directives consequential not only for AI training access but also for discovery channels.

First-order effects

  • AI companies and other automated-agent operators receive a more explicit notice that access to Reddit is conditional on its terms, giving Reddit a clearer basis to challenge unauthorized collection.
  • Reddit can distinguish permitted automated access from scraping it considers noncompliant, while legitimate crawlers must reassess how they interpret the revised file.

Second-order effects

  • Search providers may reduce or halt crawling rather than risk violating Reddit’s stated restrictions, as the later report that Bing stopped crawling Reddit illustrates; that can affect Reddit’s search-referral mix.
  • Other publishers confronting AI scraping gain a visible example of using robots.txt and terms together, though reports of bot-name changes elsewhere show that file-based blocking alone can be easy to evade.

Third-order effects

  • The episode points toward publisher-controlled, permission-based access to conversational content, with crawler rules becoming a negotiating lever for AI-search and training use.
  • If voluntary directives continue to be ignored, the market will likely require more enforceable authentication and licensing mechanisms; robots.txt by itself remains a limited governance tool.

The trend: Publishers are moving from open crawler conventions toward explicit permissioning and commercialization of data access for AI systems.

Discussion

  • @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x
    Reddit plans to update its robots.txt file to more clearly ban AI bots. The problem is there isn't a clear legal framework for blocking scraping. Some scrapers have won lawsuits on the basis the info is public while others have lost for violating the site's terms of service. [ima…
  • @lessin @lessin on x
    Well I was 1.3 years ahead of the curve on this one... coming home to roost with reddit and perplexity to name a few.
  • @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x
    The sticking point on legality of scraping tends to rest on whether the data in question requires a login to access or is public. The game of cat and mouse is on. https://www.engadget.com/...
  • @quinnypig Corey Quinn on x
    I'm trying to square their positioning of this as “to protect redditors” with their licensing of all Reddit content to Google for AI training.
  • r/technology r on reddit
    Reddit's upcoming changes attempt to safeguard the platform against AI crawlers