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Sources: Apple rejected Meta's overtures to integrate Llama into the iPhone months ago, in part because it sees Meta's privacy practices as not stringent enough

- Apple has been looking to forge agreements to use AI chatbots  — Report indicated that Apple and Meta are in discussions

Bloomberg Mark Gurman

Context & Ripple Effects

Days earlier, reporting had placed Meta among several chatbot providers pursuing an Apple Intelligence integration, alongside Anthropic and Perplexity in the initial reports of those talks.

The reported refusal makes privacy standards a concrete constraint on Llama’s path to a major mobile distribution channel, not merely a technical or commercial partnership question.

First-order effects

  • Meta loses a prospective iPhone distribution route for Llama, while Apple avoids making Meta’s model part of its device AI offering.
  • Apple’s prospective chatbot-partner set is narrowed by a stated privacy threshold rather than model capability alone.

Second-order effects

  • Other providers that discussed Apple integrations may gain relative leverage because Apple still has reason to seek external chatbot options.
  • Meta must rely more heavily on its own products and other channels to reach users with Llama, reinforcing the distribution disadvantage described in Meta’s effort to make Llama central to its AI strategy.

Third-order effects

  • If platform owners consistently screen foundation-model partners through privacy and trust criteria, consumer AI distribution could concentrate around models that meet each platform’s governance requirements.
  • The episode points to a durable split between model developers and device-platform gatekeepers: model quality matters, but access can hinge on whether a partner fits the platform owner’s privacy posture.

The trend: Consumer AI is becoming a curated distribution market in which device platforms determine which third-party models can reach users at scale.

Discussion

  • @sobri909 Matt Greenfield on threads
    Makes sense.  Apple are doing small and mid size models themselves, on-device and in their own cloud.  So the only missing piece to outsource is a large frontier model, which Meta aren't doing yet.  (Thought their 400B model could be verging on that space, if they ever ship it).
  • @kalihays1 Kali Hays on threads
    Was really wondering how on earth Apple would do this given all the bad blood, open dislike, between it and Meta/Cook and Zuckerberg (weirder things have happened).  But sounds like it was a sorta casual hey maybe that never went very far
  • @benbajarin Ben Bajarin on x
    I never believed this rumor anyway.
  • @dead_cell @dead_cell on x
    @9to5mac @filipeesposito With good reason. Meta is a privacy nightmare.
  • @eshumarneedi @eshumarneedi on x
    I love Mark Gurman. The Wall Street Journal puts out a report saying Meta and Apple were talking (I didn't believe that report for, uh, reasons), and literally 24 hours later, he puts out a report that can essentially be summarized as “NOPE” in big bold letters.
  • @scobleizer Robert Scoble on x
    His sources are deep inside Tim Cook's office.
  • @markgurman Mark Gurman on x
    NEW: Apple and Meta are NOT in discussions to integrate Meta AI into Apple Intelligence. Meta approached Apple around March during OpenAI/Google discussions, Apple rejected idea, there were never formal talks and Apple has no plans to add Llama support. https://www.bloomberg.com/…
  • r/apple r on reddit
    Apple Spurned Idea of iPhone AI Partnership With Meta Months Ago