GM, Honda, Kia, Hyundai, and others added optional features in their apps to rate people's driving in recent years, offering the data to brokers like LexisNexis
LexisNexis, which generates consumer risk profiles for the insurers, knew about every trip G.M. drivers had taken in their cars … Mastodon: @dangillmor@mastodon.social . X: @evan_greer , @ccanonne_ , @ericdharvey , @kashhill , @lawrencehurley , @halsinger , @swiftonsecurity , @lmower3 , @jose_pagliery , @nick_kapur , @tomgara , @davecullen , @hoofnagle , and @kashhill Forums: Hacker News , r/technology , r/cars , and r/business Mastodon: Dan Gillmor / @dangillmor@mastodon.social : The automobile industry has absolute contempt for its customers' privacy. The insurance industry has absolute contempt for its customers' privacy. Together, they're a perfect demonstration of how bad it's getting for people who don't want to be spied on. … X: @evan_greer : Once again destroying the “if you have nothing to hide” argument. Your car snitching on you to your insurance company https://www.nytimes.com/... Clément Canonne / @ccanonne_ : “Jen Caltrider, a researcher at Mozilla [...] said that drivers have little idea about what they are consenting to when it comes to data collection. [...] She called cars “a privacy nightmare."" https://www.nytimes.com/... Eric Harvey / @ericdharvey : Two reactions to this apart from the bonkers privacy stuff: 1) in college, I went to the library to use LexisNexis to find useful sources for my research papers, now it's a “global data broker” catering to the insurance industry 2) the guy's name is “Kenn Dahl” lmao @kashhill : Anyone who drives a General Motors car (Chevrolet, Cadillac, GMC, Corvette, Camaro, Buick) should read this story. If you use “Smart Driver,” your detailed driving data is going to data brokers. It's possible you have it turned on & don't realize it. https://www.nytimes.com/... Lawrence Hurley / @lawrencehurley : I have been wondering about the data cars collect these days. This provides some answers: Hal Singer / @halsinger : Cue the corporate lickspittles to write a column explaining how auto insurers can actually use this newfound driver data—never mind the infringement on privacy—to *reduce* premiums for safer drivers! https://www.nytimes.com/... [image] @swiftonsecurity : Wow: “G.M. confirmed that it shares “select insights” about hard braking, hard accelerating, speeding over 80 miles an hour and drive time of Smart Driver enrollees with LexisNexis and another data broker” Users were opted-in by dealership employees https://www.nytimes.com/... Lawrence Mower / @lmower3 : This is one of the most WTF stories I've read in a while. Automakers such as @GM are sharing customers' driving behavior with data brokers, who give it to insurance companies. Jose Pagliery / @jose_pagliery : The congressional hearing over this is going to be lit. Nick Kapur / @nick_kapur : Carmakers are secretly sharing detailed individual driving data with insurers, including how often people speed, brake too hard, or accelerate too fast, sometimes leading to spikes in insurance rates even for people with otherwise perfect driving records. https://www.nytimes.com/... Tom Gara / @tomgara : Amazing story. I wonder how long until the credit agencies start being similarly creative in the kind of data used for credit scores https://www.nytimes.com/... Dave Cullen / @davecullen : This is outrageous. GM should get a massive fine, and their sales should plummet. When is Congress address the deceptive practice of corps granting themselves insane rights by burying it in the terms/conditions no reasonable person has time to read. https://www.nytimes.com/... Chris Hoofnagle / @hoofnagle : If you give a pig a pancake... https://www.nytimes.com/...? @kashhill : This is the most WTF privacy story I've worked on in a while. Discovered while lurking on car forums. https://www.nytimes.com/... [image] Forums: Hacker News : Automakers Are Sharing Consumers' Driving Behavior with Insurance Companies r/technology : Automakers Are Sharing Consumers' Driving Behavior With Insurance Companies r/cars : Automakers Are Sharing Consumers' Driving Behavior With Insurance Companies r/business : Automakers Are Sharing Consumers' Driving Behavior With Insurance Companies