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Google agrees to pay $700M and make app store changes, like offering an alternative billing system, to settle a 2021 antitrust lawsuit by 36 US states and DC

but it also plans to appeal the jury verdict.  Sure looks like an admission of guilt to me https://www.theverge.com/... Mastodon: Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life@mas.to : Google just settled an antitrust lawsuit around their 30% cut in Google Play being overcharging customers versus letting people get the apps elsewhere or let developers use their own in-app billing.  The optics of Apple creating “privacy” features that forced apps like Snapchat to add subscriptions to make up for lost ad revenue of which Apple gets a 30% cut just looks suspicious I called this an open & shut antitrust case when ATT announced and instead Google got hit 🤷🏾‍♂️ Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life@mas.to : In addition to losing the Epic case, Google is going to pay $700 million to settle an antitrust lawsuit from all 50 US states for making it difficult for users to download apps from outside Google Play thus overcharging customers via its 30% cut of in-app payments.  It does look somewhat unfair that Google is effectively losing cases for Google Play being open but not open enough while Apple skates by because it's closed.  Unfortunately it's the bait & switch that got 'em. X: Jason Kint / @jason_kint : Here is a link to the full settlement. Yes, I was the one who purchased it on Pacer so y'all could have it for free. You're welcome. Just let me know what you think so I can read your comments in the morning. Commitments start on p18. Thanks. https://storage.courtlistener.com/ ... [image] Amy Klobuchar / @amyklobuchar : Like I've said for quite a while, these rip off App Store charges are bad and require a federal law. And turns out they are at least $700 million bad.... 👀 Google to pay $700 million to US states, consumers in app store settlement. https://www.startribune.com/ ... Mike Swift / @swiftstories : I think @TimSweeneyEpic is forgetting about a little thing called the US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Whatever Judge Donato does is going to be appealed ... Florian Mueller / @florian4gamers : The timing is also quite obvious: Google must have agreed with the states not to announce the terms of that settlement until after the jury verdict as they didn't want this de facto admission of guilt to make news that the jurors could have heard about. Florian Mueller / @florian4gamers : If Google had believed they were likely to defend themselves successfully, they'd have told those 37 state AGs: “bring it on!” But they paid more than a billion ($700M in states' case, and a lot to Match Group, which settled just before trial) to isolate @TimSweeneyEpic. 🧵2/3 Tim Sweeney / @timsweeneyepic : The settlement endorses Google's 30% monopoly rent imposition, by replacing the anticompetitive Google Play Billing tie with a new anticompetitive Google-imposed “user choice billing” tie which adds a useless 26% Google Tax for payments they don't process. Luther Lowe / @lutherlowe : This is a scandal. Not only was the fine more than an order of magnitude off what it should've been (recall RI AG won $250m settlement with G he didn't divide w/anyone in 2012 by not blinking), it dropped in the middle of the US v G trial as if it were designed to make DOJ &... Tim Sweeney / @timsweeneyepic : The State Attorneys General settlement is an injustice to all Android users and developers. It endorses Google's misleading and anticompetitive scare screens, which Google intentionally designed to disadvantage competing stores and direct downloads. Mishaal Rahman / @mishaalrahman : Big news! Google has announced the details of its settlement with the more than 30 U.S. states that filed a class action lawsuit over Google Play. Google says it will: 1) Be “further simplifying the sideloading process and updating the language that informs users about these... [image] Mishaal Rahman / @mishaalrahman : Here's how Google will simplify sideloading in Android.  As part of a proposed class action lawsuit settlement, Google said it will revise the default sideloading flow in Android.  Here's exactly what they're changing: 1) The pop-up with the text “For your security, your phone currently isn't allowed to install unknown apps from this source.  You can change this in Settings” and the “Install unknown apps” screen that lets you enable sideloading from the specified source will be combined into a single screen.  [image] Tim Sweeney / @timsweeneyepic : The States' earlier filings made a strong case for $10.5 billion in damages, in line with Google's unjustly collected 30% fees. I think they'd have gotten it if they'd stayed in the fight a few weeks longer to the overwhelming victory in court. An unfortunate outcome. Jason Kint / @jason_kint : Here is a very high level description of six key areas of commitments. I STRONGLY URGE you not to take these as actual commitments. Remember this is Google, please assume they've already locked in how to avoid welfare loss to developers and consumers from these terms. /6 [image] Jason Kint / @jason_kint : Bam, state AGs vs Google settlement in app store antitrust case just posted to court docket. Note: states (Utah et al) had settled but couldn't post terms until after Epic vs Google trial in the same matter. That happened last week with jury ruling for Epic against Google. /1 [image] Florian Mueller / @florian4gamers : Very significant with a view to Epic Games v. Google: Google paid $700M (more important than the app store changes that Epic determined fell far short of what's useful) to settle a case that 36 US states and D.C. brought and which would have gone to trial with Epic's case. 🧵1/3 Forums: r/Android : Reaffirming choice and openness on Android and Google Play MacRumors Forums : Google Pays $700 Million to Settle Play Store Antitrust Lawsuit

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  • @crumbler Casey Newton on threads
    So Google will pay $700 million to state AGs to settle charges it was just found guilty of by a separate jury — but it also plans to appeal the jury verdict.  Sure looks like an admission of guilt to me https://www.theverge.com/...
  • @jason_kint Jason Kint on x
    Here is a link to the full settlement. Yes, I was the one who purchased it on Pacer so y'all could have it for free. You're welcome. Just let me know what you think so I can read your comments in the morning. Commitments start on p18. Thanks. https://storage.courtlistener.com/ ..…
  • @amyklobuchar Amy Klobuchar on x
    Like I've said for quite a while, these rip off App Store charges are bad and require a federal law. And turns out they are at least $700 million bad.... 👀 Google to pay $700 million to US states, consumers in app store settlement. https://www.startribune.com/ ...
  • @swiftstories Mike Swift on x
    I think @TimSweeneyEpic is forgetting about a little thing called the US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Whatever Judge Donato does is going to be appealed ...
  • @florian4gamers Florian Mueller on x
    The timing is also quite obvious: Google must have agreed with the states not to announce the terms of that settlement until after the jury verdict as they didn't want this de facto admission of guilt to make news that the jurors could have heard about.
  • @florian4gamers Florian Mueller on x
    If Google had believed they were likely to defend themselves successfully, they'd have told those 37 state AGs: “bring it on!” But they paid more than a billion ($700M in states' case, and a lot to Match Group, which settled just before trial) to isolate @TimSweeneyEpic. 🧵2/3
  • @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x
    The settlement endorses Google's 30% monopoly rent imposition, by replacing the anticompetitive Google Play Billing tie with a new anticompetitive Google-imposed “user choice billing” tie which adds a useless 26% Google Tax for payments they don't process.
  • @lutherlowe Luther Lowe on x
    This is a scandal. Not only was the fine more than an order of magnitude off what it should've been (recall RI AG won $250m settlement with G he didn't divide w/anyone in 2012 by not blinking), it dropped in the middle of the US v G trial as if it were designed to make DOJ &...
  • @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x
    The State Attorneys General settlement is an injustice to all Android users and developers. It endorses Google's misleading and anticompetitive scare screens, which Google intentionally designed to disadvantage competing stores and direct downloads.
  • @mishaalrahman Mishaal Rahman on x
    Big news! Google has announced the details of its settlement with the more than 30 U.S. states that filed a class action lawsuit over Google Play. Google says it will: 1) Be “further simplifying the sideloading process and updating the language that informs users about these... […
  • @mishaalrahman Mishaal Rahman on x
    Here's how Google will simplify sideloading in Android.  As part of a proposed class action lawsuit settlement, Google said it will revise the default sideloading flow in Android.  Here's exactly what they're changing: 1) The pop-up with the text “For your security, your phone cu…
  • @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x
    The States' earlier filings made a strong case for $10.5 billion in damages, in line with Google's unjustly collected 30% fees. I think they'd have gotten it if they'd stayed in the fight a few weeks longer to the overwhelming victory in court. An unfortunate outcome.
  • @jason_kint Jason Kint on x
    Here is a very high level description of six key areas of commitments. I STRONGLY URGE you not to take these as actual commitments. Remember this is Google, please assume they've already locked in how to avoid welfare loss to developers and consumers from these terms. /6 [image]
  • @jason_kint Jason Kint on x
    Bam, state AGs vs Google settlement in app store antitrust case just posted to court docket. Note: states (Utah et al) had settled but couldn't post terms until after Epic vs Google trial in the same matter. That happened last week with jury ruling for Epic against Google. /1 [im…
  • @florian4gamers Florian Mueller on x
    Very significant with a view to Epic Games v. Google: Google paid $700M (more important than the app store changes that Epic determined fell far short of what's useful) to settle a case that 36 US states and D.C. brought and which would have gone to trial with Epic's case. 🧵1/3
  • r/Android r on reddit
    Reaffirming choice and openness on Android and Google Play