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France's prime minister recommends government staff uninstall foreign apps like Signal, WhatsApp, and Telegram by December 8, in favor of French chat app Olvid

Wouldn't ever use Olvid:  —  ● promoted by French minister who considers signal.org insecure  —  ● uses biometric data  —  ● not fully open-source  —  ● not fully free  —  ● owned by a for profit (needed to check olvid.io/privacy to figure out it is a SAS firm) … X: Meredith Whittaker / @mer__edith : The French PM is mandating ministers use a small French messaging app. OK. But I'm alarmed that she's claiming “security flaws” in Signal (et al) to justify the move. This claim is not backed by any evidence, and is dangerously misleading esp. coming from gov. Meredith Whittaker / @mer__edith : If you want to use a French product go for it! But don't spread misinfo in the process. Signal is independently audited, open source, and our protocol has been tested for >10yrs. We are serious about responsible disclosure and we prioritize all reports to security@signal.org Ross Anderson / @rossjanderson : I expect the French definition of “secure” is “something that we can wiretap”. That has been the GCHQ definition of secure for encryption in the NHS network and in the public sector more generally, starting in the mid-1990s. Nice to see the French copying us :-) Meredith Whittaker / @mer__edith : @JYSquall @signalapp I looked at the memo which a lovely French-speaking friend confirmed for me. The issue isn't the process. It's the claim made publicly that popular messengers (implicitly Signal, WA, Telegram, iMessage) contain security flaws. This is a very serious allegation where I come from. [image] Forums: r/InfoSecNews : French government recommends against using foreign chat apps

BleepingComputer Bill Toulas

Context & Ripple Effects

France has already treated official messaging as a state-controlled security and procurement issue: it launched the Tchap encrypted messaging service in 2019, after a flaw was found and patched, and later restricted recreational apps on government phones.

The Olvid recommendation extends that approach from limiting risky apps to steering staff toward a domestic communications provider. Its security rationale is contested, however, with Meredith Whittaker challenging the claim that Signal and similar services have demonstrated flaws.

First-order effects

  • Government staff are urged to remove Signal, WhatsApp, and Telegram by December 8 and use Olvid for official communications, giving the French app an immediate public-sector adoption opportunity.
  • Signal, WhatsApp, and Telegram face reduced use in the affected government environment, while the prime minister's stated security justification draws immediate scrutiny.

Second-order effects

  • Agencies will need to manage user migration, support, and communication practices around Olvid rather than relying on the foreign services already familiar to staff.
  • The disputed security claims raise the importance of transparent technical assessment for any messenger selected through government policy, particularly given France's earlier Tchap security patch.

Third-order effects

  • If France continues to pair device restrictions with domestic replacements, public-sector messaging procurement could become a tool of digital sovereignty rather than a choice based solely on cross-border service availability.
  • A repeated shift toward nationally controlled communications services could fragment interoperability across public institutions unless security review and migration standards are made clear.

The trend: This is part of a broader move toward sovereign technology procurement, in which governments seek greater control over the software and infrastructure used by public employees.

Discussion

  • @abambres.bsky.social Miguel on bluesky
    Surveillance!  —  Wouldn't ever use Olvid:  —  ● promoted by French minister who considers signal.org insecure  —  ● uses biometric data  —  ● not fully open-source  —  ● not fully free  —  ● owned by a for profit (needed to check olvid.io/privacy to figure out it is a SAS firm) …
  • @mer__edith Meredith Whittaker on x
    The French PM is mandating ministers use a small French messaging app. OK. But I'm alarmed that she's claiming “security flaws” in Signal (et al) to justify the move. This claim is not backed by any evidence, and is dangerously misleading esp. coming from gov.
  • @mer__edith Meredith Whittaker on x
    If you want to use a French product go for it! But don't spread misinfo in the process. Signal is independently audited, open source, and our protocol has been tested for >10yrs. We are serious about responsible disclosure and we prioritize all reports to security@signal.org
  • @rossjanderson Ross Anderson on x
    I expect the French definition of “secure” is “something that we can wiretap”. That has been the GCHQ definition of secure for encryption in the NHS network and in the public sector more generally, starting in the mid-1990s. Nice to see the French copying us :-)
  • @mer__edith Meredith Whittaker on x
    @JYSquall @signalapp I looked at the memo which a lovely French-speaking friend confirmed for me. The issue isn't the process. It's the claim made publicly that popular messengers (implicitly Signal, WA, Telegram, iMessage) contain security flaws. This is a very serious allegatio…
  • r/InfoSecNews r on reddit
    French government recommends against using foreign chat apps