Sources: Sam Altman's move to Microsoft is not a done deal; he and Brockman are open to returning to OpenAI if the remaining board members who fired him resign
Sam Altman's surprise move to Microsoft after his shock firing at OpenAI isn't a done deal. He and co-founder Greg Brockman …
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Context & Ripple Effects
The leadership rupture followed Greg Brockman’s public departure and reports that OpenAI’s board had briefly considered stepping aside to enable a return. The new condition—remaining directors resigning—turns the dispute from a personnel decision into a test of who controls the organization’s governance.
Microsoft had been reported to be working with Thrive to restore Altman as CEO, while Altman and Brockman also explored a new venture. Those alternatives give the founders leverage, but leave OpenAI’s leadership and Microsoft’s immediate AI plans unsettled.
First-order effects
- OpenAI faces continued operating uncertainty while Altman and Brockman condition a return on board turnover; the remaining directors become the immediate decision-makers.
- Microsoft cannot treat its proposed role for Altman as settled, and Altman and Brockman retain multiple paths rather than committing to one employer or new company.
Second-order effects
- The reported Microsoft and Thrive effort to reinstate Altman gains urgency: a board resolution could preserve OpenAI’s existing leadership arrangement, while failure would push talent and investor attention toward alternatives.
- The possibility of a founder-led AI startup raises the cost of prolonged deadlock for OpenAI, because employees and backers may weigh competing leadership platforms.
Third-order effects
- If governance disputes repeatedly determine the fate of key AI leaders, boards, investors, and strategic partners will face greater pressure to define decision rights before crises rather than after them.
- The episode points to a durable tension in frontier AI: nonprofit-style oversight can constrain commercial leadership, but instability can also shift talent and product influence toward large platform partners.
The trend: Frontier-AI governance is becoming a competitive variable as leadership control, talent mobility, and platform partnerships increasingly intersect.
Related: Microsoft · Greg Brockman · OpenAI board reversal talks · Microsoft and Thrive’s reinstatement effort · Altman and Brockman’s startup option
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Discussion
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@mranthropology
Richard Stroffolino
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Not a done deal but they just want to confirm he has all the leverage rather than have it assumed
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@mattyglesias
Matthew Yglesias
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Life lessons: — Don't invest capital in a company with weird governance unless you're prepared for weird shit to happen — Don't instigate drama without a plan to explain your side of the story to the public
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@austen
@austen
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I can see why the big backers of OpenAI are frustrated right now. Going after the newly-appointed CEO for having had open-minded twitter conversations about obscure and taboo topics is not the solution.
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@eladgil
Elad Gil
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At this point it seems very clear OpenAI board should merge with OpenTable to form OpenTableAI Brand matters #marketing #GrowthMindset
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@gssp_acc
@gssp_acc
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We're all happy for Sam right now but when we come back to this in a year it will be apparent that OpenAI “merging” into Microsoft means AI just got a lot *more* closed-source, locked-in, data-farmed, corporately micro-managed, and government regulated
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@dkthomp
Derek Thompson
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There is only one obvious winner of the last 100 hours, and it's business school professors who have been looking for a sexy anecdote to get students interested in the principle that corporate structure is really important [image]
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@landay
Dr. James Landay
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Thoughts on the @OpenAI drama. Yet another reason we need academic AI centers like @stanfordhai—we can't leave the important issues in AI to industry players who have conflicting values they can't manage—as the outcome here shows, money wins in industry rather than good ideas.
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@winnyeth
Winny Dot Ethereum
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honestly i think kris jenner should just be the openai ceo
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@brenthoberman
Brent Hoberman
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On @OpenAI board structure. Governance gurus could look to the @guardian media group ownership by The Scott Trust (charity) for lessons. That business navigates the charity mission with the profit seeking nature of the business without as much management drama as OpenAI. Still...
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@alexeheath
Alex Heath
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One of the wilder things to me about this whole saga is that no investors in OpenAI have been told why Altman was fired by the board beyond the public statements, like nada
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@matei_zaharia
Matei Zaharia
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Sad about the chaos around OpenAI, which was crazier than anyone imagined, and how it's affecting people, especially those on visas. I hope everyone lands on their feet!
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@stevemoraco
@stevemoraco
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so openai blew up but we got SOTA open source image -> video and video -> text models!?! what a weekend.
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@emollick
Ethan Mollick
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I have the growing feeling that the entire OpenAI debacle is going to be much less about four dimensional strategic chess and more about human mistakes, errors, confusion & conflicting motives. As it almost always is.
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@alexeheath
Alex Heath
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More: New CEO Emmett Shear has so far been unable to get written documentation of the board's reasons for firing Altman, which also haven't been shared with investors Employees responded to his announcement in OpenAI's Slack with a “fuck you” emoji https://www.theverge.com/...
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@rikefranke
Ulrike Franke
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I have obviously no insights in what's going on at OpenAI but these are the same people who self-proclaim they are developing the most promising and possibly most dangerous technology ever. And they can't run a company. That's not comforting.
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@wholemarsblog
@wholemarsblog
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Say what you want about the OpenAI board, but they've proven beyond doubt this past weekend that they are the only people on Earth who can be trusted to competently guide the development of this technology
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@goodside
Riley Goodside
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A belated ❤️ for @sama, @gdb, @miramurati, @karpathy, @BorisMPower, @AndrewMayne, and too many others to name at OpenAI. Your work has changed my life and I'm sure countless more. Whatever happens, we're lucky to have such talented people bringing the world closer to AGI.
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@gdb
Greg Brockman
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💯 Cannot overstate the level of pride & respect I feel for @miramurati @bradlightcap @jasonkwon and the rest of the leadership team for their response to this crisis. One team, one mission.
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@alexeheath
Alex Heath
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Breaking with @reckless: Sam Altman and Greg Brockman's move to Microsoft isn't a done deal. They are still plotting a return to OpenAI. Pressure is on the board to still resign gracefully after the flipping of Ilya Sutskever last night https://www.theverge.com/...
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@eriqgardner
Eriq Gardner
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Saul Goodman is doing a hell of a job lawyering this one.
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@zeitchikwapo
Steven Zeitchik
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You've got to be kidding me https://www.theverge.com/...
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@anothercohen
Alex Cohen
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Following [image]
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@alexeheath
Alex Heath
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Exhibit A: you don't say this when you are for sure going to Microsoft
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r/ChatGPT
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Here's A Full Recap of EVERYTHING At OpenAI Over the Last 83 Hours
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r/singularity
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Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
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r/technology
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Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
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r/OpenAI
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Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO