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California's DMV suspends Cruise's deployment and driverless testing permits, ending the GM self-driving car subsidiary's robotaxi operations in San Francisco

DMV: “The video footage presented to the department ended with the AV initial stop following the hard-braking 'maneuver. … @transbay@sfba.social : A phrase that I never thought I'd write: DMV FTW.  —  https://www.sfchronicle.com/ ... Dan Lyke / @danlyke@researchbuzz.masto.host : Whoah: California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous driverless vehicle permits.  —  “The agency also determined that the company “misrepresented” information related to safety of the autonomous technology.”  —  Use with a safety driver, and presumably their ACC technology using a customer as a moral crumple zone, is still allowed. … Dan Goodin / @dangoodin@infosec.exchange : A victory for San Franciscans who oppose being guinea pigs in Big Tech's dangerous experiment.  Now, we need to get Waymo off our roads too:  —  The California Department of Motor Vehicles has suspended Cruise from operating its driverless taxis in San Francisco, effective immediately. … CaliCoding / @calicoding@mastodon.social : This is good.  If they can improve the safety of these vehicles they can try again.  But for now they aren't ready  —  https://www.theverge.com/... David Zipper / @davidzipper@mastodon.social : NEW: California DMV has revoked Cruise's permit to operate driverless vehicles, effective immediately.  —  California DMV cites an “unreasonable risk to public safety.”  —  Note that Cruise is now expanding into Seattle, DC, Miami, Dallas, and many other cities. … Bluesky: Emil Protalinski / @epro.social : Tesla bulls are going to love this.  [embedded post] X: @cruise : (1/6) We learned today at 10:30 am PT of the California DMV's suspension of our driverless permits. As a result, we will be pausing operations of our driverless AVs in San Francisco. https://getcruise.com/... @10x_er : no more self driving cars sorry it's not safe but if you want to live in a literal tent and do drugs on the sidewalk that's cool we support you king @wholemarsblog : This is wild. The California DMV claims Cruise cropped the video of the hit and run incident, cutting after the first stop. In reality, Cruise executed a pull over maneuver with the woman underneath the car. Permit revoked for omission. Cruise denies they cropped the video. [image] Thomas Maxwell / @tomaxwell : People were quick to frame this as if journalist's were being unfair, saying it wasn't Cruise's fault. The initial accident wasn't, but the car didn't recognize a person fell under it and kept dragging the individual Bill Gurley / @bgurley : Seems it was possible to predict this would be the case. One could create a poll to test human tolerance for human-error vs computer(autonomous) error. I would predict a heavy tolerance for human failure, and an ultra low tolerance for computer failure. Human nature. Jason Koeninger / @jkoenin : Important context from Cruise that has been missing in the first few threads I've seen so far today. Martin Varsavsky / @martinvars : This incident in which autonomous vehicles are held to absolute non accident standards instead of better than human standards also explains why @GoggoNetwork we have had so many difficulties, it is very hard to launch AVs as the technology is both challenging and held to a very... LinkedIn: Thomas Bamonte : California's DMV has pulled Cruise permit to operate its robotaxi service in California.  Cruise is rolling out robotaxi services in Houston, Austin, and Dallas and in a number of other US cities. … Lisa Walton : I'm not anti- AI, however I believe it is supposed to work along side us and not take over for us.  The missing human element here is critical thinking, so don't worry, humans are still needed. Dr. Thomas Ganslmeier : Only one left for the time being.  —  I am curious to see which approach will be more successful: evolutionary starting with L2/3 or the disruptive way heading directly to L4/5 daanesh wadia : Good.  —  These #Cruise cars in my experience are among the most idiotic on SF streets and that's saying something.  —  Now do #Tesla #FSDBeta. … Travis Mosley : Hiding footage from regulators seems totally on-brand.  —  “[E]xtremely rare events” occur all the time once you flood the streets with these things. john lindland : They have been noncompliant to the autonomous vehicle testing permit for a long time.  They have never been capable of managing the daily driving challenges … Rob Capaldi : The world of self driving keeps twisting and turning.  —  Big news to hear that Cruise have had their permit suspended. … Selika Josiah Talbott : California suspends Cruise robotaxi service immediately.  —  Neither the public nor government can assess the ability for a vehicle to operate safely … Maisie Byrom : How big of a step back is this for Cruise for it's deployment of vehicles in San Francisco?  —  Pedestrian and passenger safety is the absolute priority … Forums: r/sanfrancisco : Cruise Self-Driving License Revoked After It Withheld Pedestrian Injury Footage, DMV Says r/SelfDrivingCars : Cruise Self-Driving License Revoked After It Withheld Pedestrian Injury Footage, DMV Says r/SelfDrivingCars : Cruise: A detailed review of the recent SF hit-and-run incident r/GeneralMotors : California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment r/cars : California DMV immediately suspends Cruise's robotaxi permit r/SFGiants : Can't wait to see what our even uglier sleeve patches are in 2024 r/RealTesla : California DMV immediately suspends Cruise's robotaxi permit r/bayarea : California suspends GM Cruise's driverless vehicle deployment - “not safe for the public's operation” r/SelfDrivingCars : California suspends GM Cruise's driverless autonomous vehicle permits

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  • @calicoding@mastodon.social CaliCoding on mastodon
    This is good.  If they can improve the safety of these vehicles they can try again.  But for now they aren't ready  —  https://www.theverge.com/...
  • @davidzipper@mastodon.social David Zipper on mastodon
    NEW: California DMV has revoked Cruise's permit to operate driverless vehicles, effective immediately.  —  California DMV cites an “unreasonable risk to public safety.”  —  Note that Cruise is now expanding into Seattle, DC, Miami, Dallas, and many other cities. …
  • @epro.social Emil Protalinski on bluesky
    Tesla bulls are going to love this.  [embedded post]
  • @cruise @cruise on x
    (1/6) We learned today at 10:30 am PT of the California DMV's suspension of our driverless permits. As a result, we will be pausing operations of our driverless AVs in San Francisco. https://getcruise.com/...
  • @10x_er @10x_er on x
    no more self driving cars sorry it's not safe but if you want to live in a literal tent and do drugs on the sidewalk that's cool we support you king
  • @tomaxwell Thomas Maxwell on x
    People were quick to frame this as if journalist's were being unfair, saying it wasn't Cruise's fault. The initial accident wasn't, but the car didn't recognize a person fell under it and kept dragging the individual
  • @wholemarsblog @wholemarsblog on x
    This is wild. The California DMV claims Cruise cropped the video of the hit and run incident, cutting after the first stop. In reality, Cruise executed a pull over maneuver with the woman underneath the car. Permit revoked for omission. Cruise denies they cropped the video. [imag…
  • @bgurley Bill Gurley on x
    Seems it was possible to predict this would be the case. One could create a poll to test human tolerance for human-error vs computer(autonomous) error. I would predict a heavy tolerance for human failure, and an ultra low tolerance for computer failure. Human nature.
  • @jkoenin Jason Koeninger on x
    Important context from Cruise that has been missing in the first few threads I've seen so far today.
  • @martinvars Martin Varsavsky on x
    This incident in which autonomous vehicles are held to absolute non accident standards instead of better than human standards also explains why @GoggoNetwork we have had so many difficulties, it is very hard to launch AVs as the technology is both challenging and held to a very..…
  • r/sanfrancisco r on reddit
    Cruise Self-Driving License Revoked After It Withheld Pedestrian Injury Footage, DMV Says
  • r/SelfDrivingCars r on reddit
    Cruise Self-Driving License Revoked After It Withheld Pedestrian Injury Footage, DMV Says
  • r/SelfDrivingCars r on reddit
    Cruise: A detailed review of the recent SF hit-and-run incident
  • r/GeneralMotors r on reddit
    California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment
  • r/cars r on reddit
    California DMV immediately suspends Cruise's robotaxi permit
  • r/SFGiants r on reddit
    Can't wait to see what our even uglier sleeve patches are in 2024
  • r/RealTesla r on reddit
    California DMV immediately suspends Cruise's robotaxi permit
  • r/bayarea r on reddit
    California suspends GM Cruise's driverless vehicle deployment - “not safe for the public's operation”
  • r/SelfDrivingCars r on reddit
    California suspends GM Cruise's driverless autonomous vehicle permits