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Q&A with DeepMind co-founder Mustafa Suleyman on LLMs becoming more controllable, “interactive” AI after generative AI, AI regulation being achievable, and more

DeepMind cofounder Mustafa Suleyman wants to build a chatbot that does a whole lot more than chat.

MIT Technology Review Will Douglas Heaven

Context & Ripple Effects

This interview captures an early version of Suleyman’s argument that chat-oriented LLMs should evolve into systems that can be directed and trusted in more consequential interactions. It follows coverage describing chat LLMs as a general-purpose information-processing layer, making controllability a practical issue rather than solely a research goal.

The later coverage arc returns to the same themes through Suleyman’s discussion of Copilot and AI agents and regulation, suggesting a durable focus on moving from model outputs to managed AI behavior.

First-order effects

  • Suleyman publicly makes controllability and broader interaction—not chat alone—the product criteria for the next generation of LLM-based assistants.
  • His assertion that regulation is achievable strengthens the case for treating safeguards and oversight as deployable design requirements rather than a post-launch constraint.

Second-order effects

  • AI developers building assistants and agents face pressure to differentiate on predictable behavior, user control, and governance alongside raw model capability.
  • Organizations adopting more interactive AI will need operational processes for defining permissions, monitoring behavior, and assigning accountability when systems act beyond a conversational reply.

Third-order effects

  • If this direction holds, competition shifts from standalone generative models toward controlled, task-capable AI systems whose reliability can be demonstrated in use.
  • The industry’s regulatory debate may increasingly center on auditable operational controls for interactive systems, especially as their role expands beyond content generation.

The trend: This is one early data point in the shift from generative AI as a chat interface to governed, agent-like systems designed to act within defined bounds.

Discussion

  • @glenngabe Glenn Gabe on x
    DeepMind cofounder: “Generative AI is just a phase. What's next is interactive AI: bots that can carry out tasks you set for them by calling on other software & other people to get stuff done. i.e. AI can talk to other people, or other AI.” https://www.technologyreview.com/ ... […
  • @rvawonk Caroline Orr Bueno, Ph.D on x
    It really is incredibly problematic and deeply troubling that these tech billionaires are unilaterally deciding what the future will look like for all of us, and we have no recourse as citizens to say “do not want.” We should probably be talking about this a lot more.
  • @mustafasuleyman Mustafa Suleyman on x
    Technology today is static -soon it will be animated...with potential freedom, if you give it, to take actions. A true step change in the history of humanity that we're creating tools with this level agency. Thanks @techreview https://www.technologyreview.com/ ...
  • @rvawonk Caroline Orr Bueno, Ph.D on x
    What if we don't want interactive AI? Or the next thing after that? Or the thing after that? A handful of billionaire tech CEO's are single-handedly deciding what the future will look like — & it increasingly looks like profit for them, dystopia for us. https://www.technologyrevi…
  • r/singularity r on reddit
    DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase.  What's next is interactive AI
  • r/technology r on reddit
    DeepMind's cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase.  What's next is interactive AI.