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Sources: Goldman Sachs is in talks to have American Express take over its Apple ventures, including Apple Card, Apple's “buy now, pay later” offering, and more

American Express in talks to take over Goldman's card deal, other ventures with tech giant

Wall Street Journal AnnaMaria Andriotis

Context & Ripple Effects

Apple and Goldman had previously been developing an installment product for Apple Pay purchases, positioning the partnership against specialist BNPL providers through Apple Pay installments. The reported talks therefore put both the card relationship and that broader consumer-finance effort under review.

The significance is less a completed handoff than Goldman’s apparent willingness to seek a new operator for Apple-linked products. It tests whether a traditional card issuer can assume a portfolio designed around Apple’s distribution and product controls.

First-order effects

  • American Express could become the prospective operator of Apple Card and Apple’s installment offering if negotiations produce an agreement; Goldman would have a route to relinquish those ventures.
  • Apple would need to preserve continuity for cardholders and installment users while a potential new financial partner evaluates the programs.

Second-order effects

  • A potential transfer would force American Express to assess the economics and operating requirements of products originated through Apple’s ecosystem, rather than a conventional co-brand card arrangement.
  • BNPL specialists such as Affirm face a potentially better-resourced distribution rival only if the Apple installment program continues under a new issuer.

Third-order effects

  • If large technology platforms can move consumer-finance programs between bank partners, the durable leverage may sit with the platform’s customer distribution while banks compete on balance-sheet capacity, underwriting, and servicing.
  • The episode points to a more modular model for embedded finance, although a deal was only under discussion and does not establish that such transitions are easy or repeatable.

The trend: This is one data point in the shift toward platform-led financial products whose bank partners can be replaced when strategy or economics diverge.

Discussion

  • @romitmehta.com Romit Mehta on bluesky
    Another ZIRP casualty [embedded post]
  • @sytaylor Simon Taylor on x
    Hey ChatGPT please define commercial leverage... https://www.wsj.com/...
  • @jperlow @jperlow on x
    To be clear, I DO NOT WANT an @Apple AMEX. Has to be a credit card, has to be a MC. https://www.wsj.com/...
  • @mgsiegler M.G. Siegler on x
    Apple hates dependencies. This is why. Time to (more fully) become a bank... 🍎🏦 https://twitter.com/...
  • @stevekopack Steve Kopack on x
    WSJ: Goldman Sachs is considering getting out of its Apple Card, savings account deal and transferring it to American Express. https://www.wsj.com/...
  • @sytaylor Simon Taylor on x
    If apple does switch card partners it's gonna learn the hard way how hard that can be... 🍿 https://www.wsj.com/...
  • r/apple r on reddit
    American Express in talks to take over Goldman's card deal with Apple
  • r/AppleCard r on reddit
    Goldman Offloading Apple Card to American Express