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After news broke that Microsoft Advertising was dropping Twitter support, Elon Musk tweeted that it's β€œlawsuit time” for training β€œillegally using Twitter data”

So if I were an artist I'd get the hell off there, because legally you don't have a leg to stand on. Mike Masnick / @mmasnick@mastodon.social : LOL.Β  Musk claims he's going to sue Microsoft for not paying $42k for the API. Tweets: Elon Musk / @elonmusk : @TitterDaily They trained illegally using Twitter data. Lawsuit time. Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life : We live in a crazy time where you actually start wondering if the richest man in the world doesn't know how to run a business? https://twitter.com/... Dennis Detwiller / @drgonzo123 : β€œIt's one API, Michael. What could it cost, $42,000?” https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/... Cat / @a_musingcat : price of data is about to reflect its value real soon last 20 years was accumulating market share + data. next 20 is value extraction https://twitter.com/... Farhad Manjoo / @fmanjoo : I love how he is both making an β€œeverything app” and charging developers everything to participate. https://twitter.com/... Karl Bode / @karlbode : If you're only just starting to wonder about this you haven't been paying attention https://twitter.com/... Elon Musk / @elonmusk : @krassenstein @TitterDaily I'm open to ideas, but ripping off the Twitter database, demonetizing it (removing ads) and then selling our data to others isn't a winning solution David Z. Morris / @davidzmorris : How the F*CK do you threaten to charge a fat API fee to a MASSIVE ADVERTISING MARKETPLACE? The magnitude of that as an objective tactical screwup by management, on its face, cannot be overstated. What really happened here? https://techcrunch.com/... Sunny Edwards / @sunnyedwards : πŸ˜‚ These Twitter files are the best thing that's happened to the internet https://twitter.com/... @technoir_vr : Seeing Elon go at MS is gonna be hysterical. Richest man in the world v's one of the biggest corporations in the world. This will get really interesting real quick https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/... @playgamesmovies : ⚑️πŸ₯Š Elon X Corp. vs Microsoft πŸ₯Š ⚑️ πŸŽ™οΈ β€œFrom the producers who brought you #EpicVsApple, Coming Soon, The Live Legal Sequel: #ElonVsMicrosoft” πŸ“Ί This would be Pay Per View entertainment worth subscribing to lol PPV for all, & included for @TwitterBlue @elonmusk subscribers. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/... Rowan Cheung / @rowancheung : Musk's threats highlight the growing tension surrounding data ownership in the AI landscape. The battle for AI dominance has just begun. https://twitter.com/... @vaushv : If Elon fans didn't all have goldfish brains they'd remember the last ten million times he said he'd do something and then just never did it https://twitter.com/... Laura Rozen / @lrozen : would this be related to microsoft having an AI platform and Musk saying he wants to get into AI? https://twitter.com/... Sar Haribhakti / @sarthakgh : Just a wild thing to tweet casually Even for him https://twitter.com/... Barry Schwartz / @rustybrick : Elon threatens to sue Microsoft #ppcchat :P https://twitter.com/... Brian Krassenstein / @krassenstein : @elonmusk @TitterDaily I'm curious if you have a long term plan here. I understand charging for the API, but I think that one thing that had been great about Twitter in the past is it's ability to function across the internet. In many cases this move is killing traffic to Twitter itself from outside... https://twitter.com/... @dabitch : Trained what, exactly? And how was it illegal when everyone was allowed to read, use, and plug into Twitter API for years, oh heck this is going to be very interesting. https://twitter.com/...

PCMag Michael Kan

Context & Ripple Effects

Musk had previously framed his interest in acquiring Twitter around its public-interest role and proposed opening its algorithm; the threat against Microsoft instead foregrounds control over platform data and access. That tension sits alongside a prior call to open-source Twitter's algorithm.

The dispute also arrives after Twitter's policy direction had emphasized stronger control over distribution and monetization, including deboosting and demonetizing negative or hate tweets. Microsoft Advertising's withdrawal makes API access and data-use terms an immediate commercial fault line.

First-order effects

  • Microsoft Advertising loses its Twitter integration/support, disrupting advertisers and agencies that used that connection in their workflows.
  • Musk's public lawsuit threat puts Microsoft on notice over the allegation that Twitter data was used for AI training, while linking that claim to the disputed API payment.

Second-order effects

  • Advertisers and marketing-platform partners may treat Twitter API access as a less predictable dependency, favoring tools and workflows that can operate without a single platform integration.
  • The conflict raises the practical cost of using social-platform data for model development: companies may need clearer licenses, provenance records, and negotiated access rather than relying on legacy data arrangements.

Third-order effects

  • If major platforms increasingly convert public conversation data into paid, tightly controlled inputs, AI training and analytics will depend more on proprietary data-access agreements than on broadly available web data.
  • The episode points to a wider collision between platform monetization and AI data rights, where API rules become both revenue mechanisms and enforcement tools for claims over training data.

The trend: Social platforms are increasingly treating data access as strategic AI infrastructure, using APIs and legal pressure to assert control over who can analyze or train on their content.

Discussion

  • @anthropy@mastodon.derg.nz @anthropy@mastodon.derg.nz on mastodon
    By the way, for anyone still on twitter: The new privacy policy allows Elon to train AI on anything you post there, including text AND pictures.Β  β€”Β  So if I were an artist I'd get the hell off there, because legally you don't have a leg to stand on.
  • @mmasnick@mastodon.social Mike Masnick on mastodon
    LOL.Β  Musk claims he's going to sue Microsoft for not paying $42k for the API.
  • @elonmusk Elon Musk on x
    @TitterDaily They trained illegally using Twitter data. Lawsuit time.
  • @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x
    We live in a crazy time where you actually start wondering if the richest man in the world doesn't know how to run a business? https://twitter.com/...
  • @fmanjoo Farhad Manjoo on x
    I love how he is both making an β€œeverything app” and charging developers everything to participate. https://twitter.com/...
  • @karlbode Karl Bode on x
    If you're only just starting to wonder about this you haven't been paying attention https://twitter.com/...
  • @drgonzo123 Dennis Detwiller on x
    β€œIt's one API, Michael. What could it cost, $42,000?” https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @a_musingcat Cat on x
    price of data is about to reflect its value real soon last 20 years was accumulating market share + data. next 20 is value extraction https://twitter.com/...
  • @elonmusk Elon Musk on x
    @krassenstein @TitterDaily I'm open to ideas, but ripping off the Twitter database, demonetizing it (removing ads) and then selling our data to others isn't a winning solution
  • @davidzmorris David Z. Morris on x
    How the F*CK do you threaten to charge a fat API fee to a MASSIVE ADVERTISING MARKETPLACE? The magnitude of that as an objective tactical screwup by management, on its face, cannot be overstated. What really happened here? https://techcrunch.com/...
  • @sunnyedwards Sunny Edwards on x
    πŸ˜‚ These Twitter files are the best thing that's happened to the internet https://twitter.com/...
  • @technoir_vr @technoir_vr on x
    Seeing Elon go at MS is gonna be hysterical. Richest man in the world v's one of the biggest corporations in the world. This will get really interesting real quick https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @playgamesmovies @playgamesmovies on x
    ⚑️πŸ₯Š Elon X Corp. vs Microsoft πŸ₯Š ⚑️ πŸŽ™οΈ β€œFrom the producers who brought you #EpicVsApple, Coming Soon, The Live Legal Sequel: #ElonVsMicrosoft” πŸ“Ί This would be Pay Per View entertainment worth subscribing to lol PPV for all, & included for @TwitterBlue @elonmusk subscribers. https:…
  • @rowancheung Rowan Cheung on x
    Musk's threats highlight the growing tension surrounding data ownership in the AI landscape. The battle for AI dominance has just begun. https://twitter.com/...
  • @vaushv @vaushv on x
    If Elon fans didn't all have goldfish brains they'd remember the last ten million times he said he'd do something and then just never did it https://twitter.com/...
  • @lrozen Laura Rozen on x
    would this be related to microsoft having an AI platform and Musk saying he wants to get into AI? https://twitter.com/...
  • @sarthakgh Sar Haribhakti on x
    Just a wild thing to tweet casually Even for him https://twitter.com/...
  • @rustybrick Barry Schwartz on x
    Elon threatens to sue Microsoft #ppcchat :P https://twitter.com/...
  • @krassenstein Brian Krassenstein on x
    @elonmusk @TitterDaily I'm curious if you have a long term plan here. I understand charging for the API, but I think that one thing that had been great about Twitter in the past is it's ability to function across the internet. In many cases this move is killing traffic to Twitter…
  • @dabitch @dabitch on x
    Trained what, exactly? And how was it illegal when everyone was allowed to read, use, and plug into Twitter API for years, oh heck this is going to be very interesting. https://twitter.com/...