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• @mimsical@mastodon.social Christopher Mims on mastodon

  every time I ask myself “how long can Twitter primarily be about its own drama” the answer is “indefinitely”

• @substackinc @substackinc on x

  We're glad to see that the suppression of Substack publications on Twitter appears to be over. This is the right move for writers, who deserve the freedom to share their work.

• @paulg Paul Graham on x

  @elonmusk Interesting point, but an example might make it clearer. Can you think of a prominent person who's currently wasting his talents in software when he could be working on manufacturing and heavy industries?

• @substackinc @substackinc on x

  We believe that Twitter and Substack can continue to coexist and complement each other. We look forward to making Substack Notes available soon, but we expect it to be a new kind of place within a subscription network, not a replacement for existing social networks.

• @paulg Paul Graham on x

  It's not because I'm an investor that I think it's a mistake to penalize links to Substack though. It's just the wrong way to run a forum. You can't put your interests before users' like that. I would tell Substack the same thing.

• @karaswisher Kara Swisher on x

  Profiles in discourage

• @sama Sam Altman on x

  @paulg free speech absolutism on STEROIDS

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  @paulg Once prominent, they're one of the few to have succeeded. Too much talent is chasing software, much like Hollywood has too much talent chasing acting. It's silly to have 10 talented entrepreneurs all chase same SaaS niche when they could be epically successful in heavy ind…

• @renato_mariotti Renato Mariotti on x

  “Free speech” indeed. https://twitter.com/...

• @thogge Tyler Hogge on x

  @elonmusk @paulg He's talking about you.

• @ericnewcomer Eric Newcomer on x

  Where is the Twitter free speech crowd right now? @DavidSacks @pmarca @antoniogm Twitter even seems to be stifling independent coverage of censorship of the newsletter platform that shall not be named.

• @caseynewton@mastodon.social Casey Newton on mastodon

  Downloading a massive portion of the Twitter database to bootstrap my Twitter clone

• @cspam@mastodon.cloud @cspam@mastodon.cloud on mastodon

  lmao searching for “from:mtaibbi” now returns no results  —  watch their already radium-ass codebase end up with load-bearing bans like SA

• @campuscodi@mastodon.social Catalin Cimpanu on mastodon

  @Techmeme  —  So... they had a massive data breach?  Is this what he's saying?  Cause databases aren't free to access like that :)))  —  God... this guy is so clueless... which helps because you can see through his b.s. so easily

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  @BretWeinstein 1. Substack links were never blocked. Matt's statement is false. 2. Substack was trying to download a massive portion of the Twitter database to bootstrap their Twitter clone, so their IP address is obviously untrusted. 3. Turns out Matt is/was an employee of Subst…

• @paulg Paul Graham on x

  Elon has asked me to “please tell people on Twitter that you are an investor in the company trying to kill Twitter,” so for anyone who didn't already know, Substack is a YC company.

• @benjysarlin Benjy Sarlin on x

  This is easily the most straightforward read of what he's doing, but even taken on its own terms (which lol), he's antagonized many of the users currently producing original reported content. https://www.wsj.com/...

• @mattzeitlin Matthew Zeitlin on x

  really good piece about how musk sees twitter: he thinks (or claims to think) that people should be able to get everything they want information-wise on here from twitter native sources, not follow links to news orgs https://www.wsj.com/...

• @modeledbehavior Adam Ozimek on x

  This is like Spotify trying to replace the record labels. Fundamental misunderstanding of the core value of the platform, and because he is a low information news consumer, he doesn't understand the core value of the media either https://www.wsj.com/...

• @chrismessina Chris Messina on x

  Imagine Elon pissing away the entire YC community, starting with any YC-backed companies that he perceives compete with him (OpenAI inclusive)? https://twitter.com/...

• @edzitron Ed Zitron on x

  Elon truly has created his own personal hell: a website that burdens him with billions of dollars of debt and embarrasses him repeatedly https://twitter.com/...

• @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x

  The love of free speech leaving Elon Musk's body every time another website or app does something he doesn't like. https://twitter.com/...

• @benedictevans Benedict Evans on x

  @paulg It's very revealing that he thinks of it that way around. People are running for the exits because he's trying to bolt them. Every time he does something to destroy trust, people build backup plans, and trying to ban the backup plans is what destroys the trust. Vicious cir…

• @michaeldweiss Michael Weiss on x

  We've reached the Zinoviev-Kamenev Trial stage of this revolution and it is hilarious. https://www.emptywheel.net/...

• @bfriedmandc Brandon Friedman on x

  Welp, that's the end of Community Notes https://twitter.com/...

• @daniellemorrill Elle Morrill on x

  If Substack is what finally kills Twitter after all the other bullshit I will eat my hat

• @ericnewcomer Eric Newcomer on x

  Surprised Substack's largest outside shareholder (a16z) hasn't publicly come to their defense

• @mikeisaac @mikeisaac on x

  this is interesting — not exactly clear what musk means by Twtr database but it would be interesting if Substack was trying to recreate the follow graph somehow to kickstart their twitter clone (i think Facebook regularly used to cut off small startups that attempted similar)

• @sofain So Fain on x

  So now Elon is throwing shade at the guy he got to shill his “Twitter files” flop? I fucking love what an absolute shitshow this place has become. https://twitter.com/...

• @noahcarl90 Noah Carl on x

  The founder of Substack's response: https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @redsteeze Stephen L. Miller on x

  “Substack links were never blocked” lol JFC this guy.

• @drkarlynb @drkarlynb on x

  Bro, you punished every substack writer by making it impossible for our links to be shared, liked or replied to. If you can't compete with them, that's your problem, not ours. You literally have an API. And @mtaibbi makes all his money from substack, what did you expect???

• @jbenton Joshua Benton on x

  1. Blocked from being retweeted, liked, or replied to. 2. Whether or not Substack was doing that, it has absolutely zero to do with whether users can retweet, like, or reply to tweets linking to Substack pieces. 3. Who cares?

• @markyzaguirre Mark R. Yzaguirre on x

  I guess item 3 is a confirmation that the Elon Musk / Matt Taibbi bromance is history.

• @craigcalcaterra Craig Calcaterra on x

  Musk is so knowingly full of shit here it's not even funny. He obviously throttled and blocked Substack links and a person who writes a Substack newsletter is no more an employee of Substack than someone who tweets is an employee of Twitter. https://twitter.com/...

• @alexandrosm @alexandrosm on x

  For what it's worth this is elons side of the story which might be technically correct, but that's the worst kind of correct. It's not correct in essence. https://twitter.com/...

• @mikeelgan Mike Elgan on x

  Substack's reply: https://twitter.com/...

• @charlesarthur Charles Arthur on x

  Impressive: two completely wrong assertions (1 and 3, confirmed 1 myself) and one of very doubtful veracity. Surprised we haven't been promised a self-driving Twitter yet; it would be as likely. https://twitter.com/...

• @jamesrbuk James Ball on x

  Substack is the wrong enemy for Elon: shared investors, shared influencers, and more. Even his beloved Community Notes aren't on his side here. https://twitter.com/...

• @damonimani Damon Imani on x

  I still can't believe users can fact check the owner of a platform on his own platform. This is a W for @elonmusk and tweeters. https://twitter.com/...

• @ruskin147 Rory Cellan-Jones on x

  This is such BS from @elonmusk - marking Substack links as unsafe is as good as blocking them #StandDownElon https://twitter.com/...

• @senronjohnson Senator Ron Johnson on x

  .@elonmusk, you say Twitter isn't blocking Substacks. Ok, so I'll ask again: Why did Twitter block my tweet about the death of a 14 yr-old in Japan following a Covid-19 booster? Twitter labeled the Truth “unsafe.” Why? https://twitter.com/...

• @konstantinkisin Konstantin Kisin on x

  It's blocking them RIGHT NOW and preventing likes and retweets on tweets with such links in them. I really hope this is some kind of technical error and not a policy decision... https://twitter.com/...

• @hansmahncke Hans Mahncke on x

  A lot of acrimony could've been avoided if Twitter had just issued a statement: “We've restricted Substack because they were downloading a massive portion of the Twitter database to bootstrap their Twitter clone.” Remember that old Twitter was hated due to lack of transparency. h…

• @matthewstoller Matt Stoller on x

  This is likely a false and deceptive statement, and that's unlawful. Twitter not only blocked Substack links, but also refuses to let tweets to be embedded in Substack posts. Twitter is already under an FTC consent decree and I suspect Musk is going to be in real trouble. https:/…