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Musk v. Altman: Mira Murati testifies that Sam Altman lied to her about the safety standards for a new OpenAI model and that he made her work more difficult

OpenAI's former CEO testified under oath that Altman lied to her. … Mira Murati, OpenAI's former CTO, has testified under oath …

The Verge Jay Peters

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  • @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x
    Mira Murati's testimony is gripping - and what it makes absolutely clear is how utterly wrong most of Twitter was about why Sam was fired. - It had nothing per se to do with AI safety - It had nothing do with anything “Ilya saw” - It was entirely about Sam's lack of
  • @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x
    How Sam ("You parachute him onto a cannibal island, and he comes back five years later as king") Altman operates:
  • @michelletomkim Michelle Kim on x
    “My concern was about Sam saying one thing to one person, and it completed the opposite to another person,” says Murati. Altman also was not “making decisions on big controversial things at all,” she says. This made “a very difficult and chaotic environment” to work in, she
  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    murati says the problems she had with altman's management style after he was reinstated still “persisted,” as well as with brockman though to a lesser degree in the latter case
  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    “OpenAI was at catastrophic risk of falling apart. i was concerned about the company completely blowing up. the funding was the last of my concerns.” — murati on “the blip” of altman's ouster
  • @slhamlet Wagner James Au on x
    Confirming @RonanFarrow & @andrewmarantz's reporting under oath and threat of perjury prosecution
  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    just want to go back to how much intense pushback i got on this story at all levels of the company at the time, and how people speak very differently when under the threat of perjury lot of names etched in my mind w/r/t how certain folks handled this https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @piratewires @piratewires on x
    Murati: My issues with Sam were very much around management and providing direction to the organization and decision making.
  • @michelletomkim Michelle Kim on x
    Mira Murati says she “heard from [her] team” that Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind, and Elon Musk were trying to recruit researchers from OpenAI in November 2023 when Sam Altman was fired as CEO.
  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    per murati's texts: as OpenAI was “imploding,” OAI execs including her were worried Demis Hassabis would go on a recruiting spree and DeepMind would come out on top Musk also constantly worried about Hassabis before he left OAI Key theme: everyone's worried about Demis!
  • @michelletomkim Michelle Kim on x
    When asked if Sam Altman was not candid with her by fall of 2023, Mira Murati takes a long pause, sighs, and says, “Not always.” “I had an incredibly hard job to do in an organization that was very complex, and I was asking Sam to lead and lead with clarity,” she says.
  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    mira trashes the board's handling of altman's firing. counsel asks if her views on sam's management has changed since she was asked by the board Mira: “Ive been gone from openai for over a year. up until the moment i left, my views have been consistent.” that's candor!
  • @piratewires @piratewires on x
    Murati testified that, by fall 2023, Sam Altman was “not always” candid with her, and undermined her as CTO. She expressed frustration over his need to “lead with clarity.”
  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    counsel: “by fall of 2023 did you percieve altman was not candid with you? truthful? honest?” murati: (very long pause) “not always” counsel: did he undermine you as CTO? Murati: yes. counsel: did he pit other execs against one another? murati: yes.
  • @michelletomkim Michelle Kim on x
    Mira Murati, former CTO of OpenAI and former senior product manager at Tesla, testifies in video. “I found Elon to be very inspiring leader,” she says, when she joined Tesla. She joined OpenAI in 2018 after chatting with Ilya Sutskever and Greg Brockman. “I found the direction of
  • @katiemiller Katie Miller on x
    “My concern was about Sam saying one thing to one person and completely the opposite to another person,” said Mira Murati, who was briefly CEO of OpenAI after its board temporarily forced out Altman in 2023. She said Altman was “creating chaos” and, at times, was deceptive with […