Musk v. Altman: when asked whether xAI has distilled OpenAI models, Elon Musk says the claim is “partly” true
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Discussion
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@mikeisaac
Rat King
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i am getting a lot of questions about this so i just want to make clear that it was a brief exchange and OAI's lawyer did not seem to want to pursue it further after musk affirmed the practice. (musk also noted that it was a common practice among the labs)
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@wongmjane
Jane Manchun Wong
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Last week: White House condemns Chinese AI labs for alleged distillation attack This week: Elon admits under oath that xAI distilled OpenAI models to train its models 🫣 [image]
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@zeffmax
Max Zeff
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Musk doubled down that everyone is doing this. He also said it's standard practice for AI labs to use other AI models to validate their own, which seemed more known. https://www.wired.com/...
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@zeffmax
Max Zeff
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Elon's lawsuit against OpenAI is really not about Grok. But a line of questioning this morning veered into how xAI trains its AI models, potentially using their competitor's technology: Lawyer: Do you know what distillation is? Musk: It means to use one AI model to train another …
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@clementdelangue
Clem
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What people call “distillation” is a super common practice (you use other models to benchmark your model, to evaluate your inputs or to add a little bit to your datasets) that in my opinion should be covered by fair use (just like using public data is), especially when the result…
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@kelseytuoc
Kelsey Piper
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I think OpenAI did basically betray its commitments to its early investors but it's so absurd to have Musk being the one suing when he 1) didn't seem to care until it affected him personally and 2) is now running a fully for-profit competitor.
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@mikeisaac
Rat King
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it is quite significant that Musk admitted on the stand that xAI is distilling OpenAI models to train xAI, and that it is using OpenAI's technology to build xAI!
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@alexeheath
Alex Heath
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wild thing to say under oath
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@mtslive
@mtslive
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LIVE TRIAL UPDATE: OpenAI's counsel asked Musk whether xAI has ever “distilled” technology from OpenAI. Musk: “Generally AI companies distill other AI companies.” “Is that a yes?” Savitt asked. Musk: “Partly.”
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@mikeisaac
Rat King
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Musk also affirms xAI has used OpenAI technology to improve xAI. wowie woo
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@mikeisaac
Rat King
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Musk says it's “partly” true that xAI has distilled OpenAI models to train xAI.
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r/singularity
r
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Elon Musk confirms xAI “partly” distilled OpenAI's models to train Grok