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• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  pretty funny “graphic design is my passion”-style photoshop of Altman self-dealing on “both sides of the table” to himself also the photos they're using of Altman and Brockman are straight up mugshot-worthy i really need to know who musk's trial team's resident photoshop guy is

• @michelletomkim Michelle Kim on x

  @techreview “I would've created a nonprofit open-source foundation with or without Sam Altman or Greg Brockman,” says Elon Musk. But at the time, he was glad they would do it with him.

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  the headshots OpenAI is using for Musk and his allies are far more flattering than the ones Musk's photoshop guy used for OAI execs lol

• @grady_booch Grady Booch on x

  If only there were an option for the jurors to rule that both Sam and Elon are terrible, horrible, no good, very bad rapacious and unethical people.

• @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x

  From what I can tell, Elon Musk just stepped on his own toes at the trial, making it all about him instead of the promises Altman and Brockman broke. OpenAI will slay his ego on cross. He should have made it about them. (reporting from @MikeIsaac at NYT) [image]

• @michelletomkim Michelle Kim on x

  @techreview Elon Musk says Larry Page at Google wasn't sufficiently concerned about AI safety. According to Elon, when he asked Larry what happens if AI poses risks to humanity, “That will be fine as long as artificial intelligence survives,” Larry told him. “And then he called m…

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  Musk's strategy seems to be to trash any and everyone involved with Altman, including Microsoft. Satya Nadella, Molo says, was “pulling all the strings” to get Altman reinstated after the board fired him in 2023

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  Musk's Lawyer's line of questioning essentially boils down to “how can you be so awesome?” musk basically says “b/c i dont sleep”

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  OAI's lawyer done, Microsoft's lawyer up. MSFT's whole thing is basically “yo leave us out of this”

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  Elon Musk and Sam Altman have entered the building, along with a phalanx of lawyers

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  in the courtroom, Judge Gonzalez Rogers is laying out the case for the jury before we begin opening statements. Musk is sitting at the front of the courtroom. Sam Altman and Greg Brockman are sitting together on a bench on the opposite side of the room. i forgot to pack lunch

• @mtslive @mtslive on x

  LIVE TRIAL UPDATE: Elon Musk says, “The reason OpenAI exists is because Larry Page called me a ‘specieist’.” In 2015, the Google co-founder Larry Page called Musk a “specieist,” meaning a person who favors humans over the digital life-forms of the future.

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  “Everyone seems to know mr musk and everyone seems to have an opinion about mr musk. not every opinion is good, not every opinion is bad.” — musk's lawyer, as he asks Musk to stand and say hello to the jury. musk stands, nods in his usual triple nodding sort of way, sits.

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  @ceodonovan Musk's opening broadside on the stakes of this case are....dramatic: “It will give license to looting every charity in america. The consequences of this case go far beyond me or everyone here. The entire foundation of charitable giving in america will be destroyed.”

• @ceodonovan Caroline O'Donovan on x

  Musk testimony strange out of the gate. Asked to describe his case, Musk accuses of OpenAI of trying to “loot a charity.” His concern, he says, is “the entire foundation of charitable giving in America will be destroyed” if the decision goes against him.

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  “I have extreme concerns about AI. I've had concerns about AI for a very long time.” — Musk musk now trashing larry page on the stand amid their fallout. “I care more about humans than AI. what team are you on, Larry?” — musk

• @zeffmax Max Zeff on x

  New: As Elon took the stand in his lawsuit against OpenAI, he took jurors through his thinking behind starting OpenAI as a nonprofit. He told them AI was too dangerous a technology to be controlled by a regular company, like Google, and could lead to a “Terminator outcome.” [imag…

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  Musk now explaining what “DOTA” is on the stand. (Defense of the Ancients, for the uninitiated. i personally prefer counterstrike but YMMV)

• @scottbudman Scott Budman on x

  Musk says AI can be good, like in “Star Trek,” or bad, like “in a James Cameron movie.” Says he's “pro human,” which is why he was worried about AI, which he says is why he helped start OpenAI.

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  lot of musk's case is him making the point that he's acting “in the best interests of humanity” so a lot of what he's talking about right now is how fast AI is advancing and how it's going to take over the world and be uncontrollable.

• @zeffmax Max Zeff on x

  Elon's lawsuit rests on these beliefs, and communicating them effectively to a jury that is skeptical of him and AI generally.  Worth noting that Musk's current AI lab, xAI, has been ridiculed by competitors for reckless safety practices.  Musk admitted today that he was fine wit…

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  @ceodonovan very clear that Musk's lawyers are making Musk, the public figure, a focal point of the trial, leaning on his celebrity and how his ‘self-made man’ mythos is attractive to his fans. he also made his pleas directly to the jury, facing them with an intense look.

• @michelletomkim Michelle Kim on x

  @techreview “The reason OpenAI exists is because Larry Page called me a speciesist,” says Elon Musk. Because Larry does not care enough about AI safety, he thought, there should be a “counterbalance to Google”: “an open-source nonprofit would be the opposite of Google,” which is

• r/EnoughMuskSpam r on reddit

  Elon Musk appeared more petty than prepared

• @michelletomkim Michelle Kim on x

  @techreview As one of the founders of OpenAI, Elon Musk says he came up with the idea of the company, the name, recruited the key people, and provided the initial funding. He says he could've made a for-profit AI company, but chose not to. He wanted to make a “charity that does n…

• @ns123abc Nik on x

  🚨An email exchange from September 2017 was just shown to jurors Musk: “Either go do something on your own or continue with OpenAI as a nonprofit.”  Altman: “I remain enthusiastic about the non-profit structure!”  The same month Brockman wrote in his diary: “i cannot believe that …

• @ceodonovan Caroline O'Donovan on x

  I'm in the court room for Musk v. Altman today, along with Musk himself. HIs lawyer is currently explaining what SpaceX is, along with every other company Musk has founded. “Whether you like him or dislike him, you can't disagree with the fact that he is a legend.”

• @cityofthetown Tom Dotan on x

  Stephen Molo's mic keeps going off at the Musk Altman trial. Now right as he describes Altman's firing and MSFT's pulling the strings to reinstate him. “Is this a Microsoft product?” he asks.

• @teddyschleifer Teddy Schleifer on x

  In the OpenAI trial, Elon Musk ❤️ Charity. In reality... [image]

• @michelletomkim Michelle Kim on x

  Musk's lawyer tells the jury this case is not about Elon Musk, but about OpenAI. He says OpenAI was founded to develop AI safely given its potential risks. It wasn't avehicle for people to get rich, he says.

• @hadas_gold Hadas Gold on x

  Judge: “clean slate... all of you try to control your propensity to use social media to make things worse outside this courtroom. let's let this play through. perhaps you've never done that before. this would be a first. can you agree to that” Musk, Altman and Brockman all agree

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  decidedly less flair in OAI's opening arguments but maybe im just tired. anyway he's laying into Musk but also really about history and explaining the extremely long and winding path to this point to the jury

• @hadas_gold Hadas Gold on x

  Musk side opening statement is done. Attorney opened with “The defendants in this case stole a charity”. We're in a break now before OpenAI side goes up.

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  Musk's lawyer, Steven Molo, is really painting a picture of Musk for the jury as a selfless champion of the human race, who is levying this legal challenge “for the benefit of all mankind” rather than, say, a corporate strategic move among competitors.

• @hadas_gold Hadas Gold on x

  Savitt (OpenAI lawyer) says Musk also “sat on his claims for years” that “Musk has all the relevant info by Sept 2020. Years go by, he forms xAI in 2023 ” then lawsuits are filed. “It's too late now to gin up something to harm a competitor,” Savitt says

• @michelletomkim Michelle Kim on x

  @techreview At various times, Elon says he, Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, and Ilya Sutskever brainstormed various ways to fund OpenAI, which was a nonprofit. They talked about attaching it to Tesla or creating a for-profit entity. “I was not opposed to there being a small for-profit…

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  Musk had to walk through the metal detectors twice, after setting the machine off the first time. He forgot to take his belt off. oops!

• @ahall_research Andy Hall on x

  The Musk-OpenAI trial starts today, and it's rooted in fundamental questions about how AI is going to concentrate power. The origins of OpenAI and the battle with Musk were explicitly about “AGI dictatorship”—fears that Demis Hassabis, Sam Altman, or Elon Musk might wield

• @hadas_gold Hadas Gold on x

  Judge is asking Musk whether she needs a gag order due to his social media use!!

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  lol okay the openai photoshop guy has some moves OAI's lawyer telling “A Tale of Two Elons” — first pic is bathed in green background, a younger, smiling musk depicted second is all red, older musk, frowning

• @mikeisaac Rat King on x

  “The DOTA win was a big deal.” — OpenAI's lawyers on how a (admittedly fun) computer game was proof OAI's models were getting better by beating top DOTA players online to be fair, i too think video games are a big deal

• @michelletomkim Michelle Kim on x

  @techreview OpenAI's lawyer pulls up a photo of the founding members of OpenAI during the company's early days, wearing T-shirts and jeans in a scrappy office and “working day and night,” he says. Musk, who was at Y Combinator, came by occasionally to “yell at people for not movi…

• @hadas_gold Hadas Gold on x

  Takeaways from OpenAI's opening: “We're here because Mr. Musk didn't get his way at OpenAI,” said evidence will show Musk was always aware of the for profit plans. Noted Musk's attorney's never mentioned xAI, an OpenAI competitor ...

• @ceodonovan Caroline O'Donovan on x

  Elon Musk's lawyer's microphone has turned off probably four times in the course of his opening statement in Musk v. Open AI. On the fifth or so time, Federal Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers sez: “What can I tell you? We are funded by the federal government.”

• @gerritd Gerrit De Vynck on x

  It's already been a long morning at Musk v. Altman et al. Reporters began lining up at 5am. Musk and Altman came in through a special entrance but went through security like everyone else. Opening statements are beginning NOW

• @katiebakes @katiebakes on x

  attorney paparazzi outside Musk v Altman [image]

• @thisiselena Elena Perez on bluesky

  advice for the masses, tbh [embedded post]

• @karlbode.com Karl Bode on bluesky

  take off and nuke the entire site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure

• r/oakland r on reddit

  Oakland, which is playing host to the trial, is not exactly known as a tech hub.  (Gift Article)

• r/NewsOfTheStupid r on reddit

  WIRED: Elon Musk Testifies That He Started OpenAI to Prevent a ‘Terminator Outcome’

• r/news r on reddit

  Elon Musk says OpenAI was his idea, before executives looted it

• r/law r on reddit

  Musk accuses Altman of stealing a charity as OpenAI battle begins