Discussion

• @steipete Peter Steinberger on x

  woke up and my mentions are full of these Both me and @davemorin tried to talk sense into Anthropic, best we managed was delaying this for a week. Funny how timings match up, first they copy some popular features into their closed harness, then they lock out open source.

• @bcherny Boris Cherny on x

  Starting tomorrow at 12pm PT, Claude subscriptions will no longer cover usage on third-party tools like OpenClaw. You can still use these tools with your Claude login via extra usage bundles (now available at a discount), or with a Claude API key.

• @vadimstrizheus Vadim on x

  ANTHROPIC HAS OFFICIALLY BANNED OPENCLAW USAGE!!! no this is not ai-generated Starting April 4, users will no longer be able to use their Claude Subscriptions for third-party harnesses including OpenClaw. THIS IS CRAZY. 👇 [image]

• @bcherny Boris Cherny on x

  We've been working hard to meet the increase in demand for Claude, and our subscriptions weren't built for the usage patterns of these third-party tools. Capacity is a resource we manage thoughtfully and we are prioritizing our customers using our products and API.

• @trace_cohen Trace Cohen on x

  I can't imagine their scaling issues... Token use must be 🚀 and we all got amazing subsidized Ai for a few months. I can't believe we already went through the Ai VC subsidized time already.

• @packym Packy McCormick on x

  Intelligence Too Expensive Not to Meter [image]

• @kenwheeler Patagucci Perf Papi on x

  you don't hate this company enough [image]

• @ericbuess Eric Buess on x

  @bcherny Subs can still be used for personal local tools that use or wrap the Claude harness like Claude Code and Claude Code headless and Agent SDK, right?

• @4shadowed @4shadowed on x

  And there it is Bye bye Claude

• @_vgnsh Vignesh on x

  This is perfectly in line with their TOS and not an unreasonable measure to control capacity. The credit to ease off is also nice :) API unfortunately is a bit too cost prohibitive for daily usage with 3p harnesses. Claude code is solid though. Should also see fewer capacity

• @altryne Alex Volkov on x

  Welp, this seems like game over! Anthropic jut mass mailed everyone who used @openclaw and said Game Over! If you'd like to use OpenClaw with your Max account, turn on “extra credits”. They are offering a 1 time credit for the amount of the max subscription! [image]

• @trq212 @trq212 on x

  claim a month of free credits on us, thanks for bearing with us

• @michael_chomsky Michael on x

  HOLY SHIT. It's so over. [image]

• @thekitze @thekitze on x

  banthropic is speedrunning their death while codex is cementing itself as the goat, incredible fumble [image]

• @natolambert Nathan Lambert on x

  This was actually already policy. Regardless, destroying demand was coming with undercapacity and increasing verticalization/integration is the right move. Perfect move in fact, despite people being understandably mad.

• @0xdevshah Dev Shah on x

  i switched to glm-5 for my claws and hermes agents. it's almost sota, better multi-modal than opus, 100x cheaper, and z_ai folks are always giving out free credits to the community. love deepseek, kimi, minimax, mimo. opus is great for coding, but for most use cases, the chinese

• @yuchenj_uw Yuchen Jin on x

  Claude is cutting off apps like OpenClaw from using Claude subscriptions. I read somewhere that a $200/month Claude plan can use up to $5,000 in compute, so it's heavily subsidized. Given Claude's uptime issues, this might be the right move under current Anthropic GPU [image]

• @bcherny Boris Cherny on x

  Subscribers get a one-time credit equal to your monthly plan cost. If you need more, you can now buy discounted usage bundles. To request a full refund, look for a link in your email tomorrow. https://support.claude.com/...

• @bcherny Boris Cherny on x

  @EricBuess Yep, working on improving clarity here to make it more explicit

• @brianroemmele Brian Roemmele on x

  ANTHROPIC HAS OFFICIALLY BANNED OPENCLAW USAGE! The self inflicted hits keep getting bigger and bigger. When devs finally get something close they are gone. [image]

• @ttrimoreau Thomas Trimoreau on x

  I think it's a really good idea to be focus on their clients but many people not gonna like this news... hope it gonna help us with usage limit

• @clementdelangue Clem on x

  Time to move to open or local models from Hugging Face! All instructions are here: https://huggingface.co/...

• @bcherny Boris Cherny on x

  We want to be intentional in managing our growth to continue to serve our customers sustainably long-term. This change is a step toward that.

• @matthewberman Matthew Berman on x

  It's over. Officially. No more Claude in OpenClaw. Way to drop this Friday late afternoon @AnthropicAI So lame [image]

• @austen Austen Allred on x

  And what if I run a third party harness with Claude Code? This distinction is gonna be a really difficult one to police

• @theo @theo on x

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• @rhyssullivan Rhys on x

  i thought they already killed support for third party harnesses [image]

• @rahll Reid Southen on x

  The nickel and dime era of AI is here. Can't wait until people have to start paying the real cost. “What do you mean the base plan is $200 a month and I have to purchase add-ons for everything?”

• @patrickmoorhead Patrick Moorhead on x

  Well, I guess a token isn't just a token. Stay in my walled garden, thank you. “to better manage capacity” LoL. Please @ChatGPTapp give us a miracle. Give me a reason to move everything back.

• @mitsuhiko Armin Ronacher on x

  I understand it, but it makes me sad. I really like Opus in pi, but paying for API token prices is just not a reasonable option today. https://x.com/...

• @irabukht Ira Bodnar on x

  We, after Claude disables subscription usage for OpenClaw [image]

• @goodhunt Hunter Bown on x

  so $200 of extra usage must be that minimal compared to what you get from a $200 sub I don't understand the business decision to reduce strain if that isn't true - how do you have a deal for 30% off extra usage if you aren't making huge margins off that?

• @jayair Jay on x

  Announced on a Friday evening

• @pavel_asparagus Pavel Asparouhov on x

  It all started when Sama decided to charge $20 / mo for a high variable cost product Now, and for the rest of time, consumers will all yell at the AI labs once a month as they make further byzantine rules to make this paradigm work financially

• @matthewberman Matthew Berman on x

  Oh also...LESS THAN 24 HOURS NOTICE to switch off of Claude subscription...on a holiday weekend. Probably the lamest thing of all.

• @theo @theo on x

  I got the email too. Anthropic is on a sentiment suicide speed-run right now [image]

• @badlogicgames Mario Zechner on x

  my heart goes out to @trq212 who will surely get some of the worst twitter messages in the next few days. personally think clarity is good. i like to think that this could have been avoided if some harnesses didn't behave like elephants in the prompt cache shop. tried to make pi

• @jamiequint Jamie Quint on x

  Anthropic is cutting off OpenClaw from Claude Code plans starting tomorrow. Classic move to announce this at 4pm on a Friday to try to bury it. Share widely. [image]

• @mitsuhiko Armin Ronacher on x

  I feel sorry for the Twitter active Anthropic folks who constantly have to do the messaging, because apparently Anthropic has no other channel to communicate stuff like this :P

• @badlogicgames Mario Zechner on x

  entirely expected and makes sense under their ToS. Codex, OpenCode Zen, MiniMax, https://z.ai/. You have many options.

• @krishnanrohit Rohit on x

  Can't openclaw also use claude code sdk if someone wanted to?

• @thsottiaux Tibo on x

  From the surge in demand on Codex and many other services, it is clear that AI companies are going to go through a phase of demand outpacing supply. Two things will be most important, having the most capacity and having the most efficient models. I believe we have both.

• @mil000 Milo Smith on x

  Openclaw did nothing but waste tokens and didn't bring any loyalty to an Anthropic made harness

• @dexhorthy Dex on x

  like I've said a few times, well within TOS to do this, they built the model, if they wanna give you inference at pennies on the dollar on the condition that you use their harness, great, they have the right to do this.  On this topic in particular, I don't understand the “evil” …

• @bookenj @bookenj on bluesky

  the VC subsidy is ending much sooner than i expected. have they made themselves essential enough to be worth paying full freight for? if not, it's over. i bet people will mostly pay, but we're 6 months from this being opensource and available locally for free for nerds, and 18 mo…

• @martinsfp @martinsfp on bluesky

  This makes perfect sense although can understand why people obsessed with outsourcing their brains might be annoyed [embedded post]

• r/ArtificialInteligence r on reddit

  How is the Anthropic ban on OpenClaw affecting you, and what are your workarounds?

• @aakashgupta Aakash Gupta on x

  The $20/month all-you-can-eat buffet just closed. A single OpenClaw agent running for one day burns $1,000 to $5,000 in API-equivalent costs. On a $200 Max subscription. Anthropic was eating that difference on every user who routed through a third-party harness. The timeline

• @pranit @pranit on x

  So the truth is finally coming out Yesterday, Anthropic said users were hitting limits because of their own usage patterns. Today, Boris is telling us they're cutting OpenClaw and third-party tools from subscriptions and prioritizing capacity for their own products That's a

• @ashen_one @ashen_one on x

  @bcherny I love you guys, and Claude is amazing, but this low-key sucks. I understand Claude co-work is your solution to OpenClaw, so why would you want to directly fuel your competition? I really do get that, but this decision is actually going to actively hurt a lot of people. …

• @steipete Peter Steinberger on x

  While I think what Anthropic does is sad for the ecosystem, I wanna give Boris credit for doing what he can to soften the fallout. Today's release will include some fixes for better cache use, to lower cost for API users.

• @bcherny Boris Cherny on x

  @jaredctate We're big fans of open source. I actually just put up a few PRs to improve prompt cache efficiency for OpenClaw specifically. This is more about engineering constraints. Our systems are highly optimized for one kind of workload, and to serve as many people as possible…

• @alexfinn Alex Finn on x

  It's over. Anthropic just banned OpenClaw. Uncensored thoughts: 1. Massive mistake that will come back to bite them 2. Open source needs to win. If you have a local model running on your Mac mini, no corporation will ever be able to ban you 3. ChatGPT 5.4 is the best model.

• @jumperz @jumperz on x

  let me get this straight: >you sell a model >someone builds real infrastructure on it >it works so well you can't handle the load >so you email your entire user base blaming the builder >then offer him the door you didn't just lose a power user, you just told every dev

• @benjaminbadejo Ben Badejo on x

  You rug-pulled so many people. Your colleagues gaslit them and outright lied. A terrible way to relate to and treat people. It's not just about the money. It's the lying. The dishonest and deceptive language that some of your colleagues used to address customers was appalling.✌️

• @jason @jason on x

  Here's the explanation of anthropic ankling OoenClaw — discuss

• @petergyang Peter Yang on x

  Nooooo [image]

• @nickadobos Nick Dobos on x

  Isn't this impossible to enforce unless they remove a significant portion of Claude code? claude -p <prompt>

• @yuchenj_uw Yuchen Jin on x

  @amvehas “This is more about engineering constraints. Our systems are highly optimized for one kind of workload. The issue was just subs.” https://x.com/...

• @bcherny Boris Cherny on x

  @ashen_one I know it sucks. Fundamentally engineering is about tradeoffs, and one of the things we do to serve a lot of customers is optimize the way subscriptions work to serve as many people as possible with the best model. Third party services are not optimized in this way, so…

• @zrdianjiao @zrdianjiao on x

  You can try GLM-5-Turbo and GLM-5V-Turbo. Maybe they are not quite Claude Opus 4.6 level yet, but they are absolutely strong contenders — and definitely worth a shot.

• @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x

  What? It seems like Anthropic is trying to save compute wherever possible.

• @frameworkputer @frameworkputer on x

  Another example of why not to depend on service providers for your agent infrastructure. Own your compute! It's easier than ever, and open source models you can run locally are getting better every day.

• @kloss_xyz Klöss on x

  do you understand what just happened? Anthropic has sent this email to Claude users starting tomorrow at 12pm PT... you can no longer use your subscription limits for third-party tools like OpenClaw here's what it means: → your flat rate Pro or Max subscription now only [image]

• @webmaster Jason on x

  xAi is asleep at the wheel on this. Not one person is talking about using grok/xAi to power OpenClaw

• @petergyang Peter Yang on x

  Anthropic just sent an email saying that you can no longer run 3rd party harnesses like OpenClaw using Claude subscriptions. Right now, both OpenAI and Anthropic are losing money on power users who run multiple agents 24/7 using their $100-200 subscription plans. This reminds

• @bprintco Alex B on x

  Easy decision. Switching to OpenAI along with 200k others

• @zeffmax Max Zeff on x

  Claude's generous subscriptions will no longer work in openclaw👀 It was really only a matter of time