At a hearing, a US federal judge says the Pentagon's treatment of Anthropic is “troubling” and that “it looks like an attempt to cripple Anthropic”
A federal judge on Tuesday called the Pentagon's treatment of Anthropic “troubling” as the AI company urged the court …
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Discussion
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@mikeisaac
Rat King
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DoD lawyer saying trust is broken after the split & DoD couldn't know whether anthropic would install some sort of backdoor to continuously change software in order to disallow the pentagon from taking actions with autonomous weapons that the company disagrees with
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@allinallnotbad
Samuel Roland
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@deanwball Judge Lin now pressing on what the difference is between stopping work with Anthropic and deigning it a supply chain risk. Pentagon appears to be making a claim that 3252 is effectively just a bundling mechanism for individual contractural requirements, but somehow als…
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Samuel Roland
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@deanwball And credit to Anthropic's lawyers, they pick up on it immediately. Even if the congressional notification requirement was not met, the Pentagon itself still needs its own reasoning to justify taking the measure versus others, which is not clear from the record.
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@eggerdc
Andrew Egger
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Anthropic's argument here hinges on a pretty common Trump-admin tactic: Announcing some giant bombastic change that's wildly illegal, then quietly rolling out a (somewhat) more defensible form in official channels. Anthropic is saying, well, the bombastic claim hurts us too.
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@deanwball
Dean W. Ball
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doj lawyers have an important job, and it is extremely difficult in every administration. everyone is entitled to robust legal defense, including wannabe tyrants. the lawyers are doing their jobs.
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Samuel Roland
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@deanwball Anthropic pointing out that 13 million people saw the Hegseth tweet, very few saw the latter letter, need a preliminary injunction (or stipulation) to provide a clarifying statement for other Anthropic business relations to cure the harm here. DoW does not agree to sti…
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Dean W. Ball
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Pete Hegseth tweeted, basically, “this is my ultra-super official determination, and it is absolutely final,” and the government's lawyers are standing in court with a straight face saying this “had no legal effect and no reasonable person should have concluded that it did.”
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@eggerdc
Andrew Egger
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Pretty remarkable that the first 15 minutes of this hearing have been taken up by the government's lawyers fighting to prove the case that Hegseth's (incorrect) announcement tweet about Anthropic has no legal effect.
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Samuel Roland
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@deanwball Judge Lin getting into the meat of the matter, does the restriction apply to only “national security systems” or all DoW contracting? DoW lawyer appears to point to latter. Hard to square that with the clear language of 3252 covering only “national security system[s]”
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@eggerdc
Andrew Egger
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Lin: “So why did Sec. Hegseth say this if it has no legal effect and he didn't intend to cause it to happen?” Govt lawyer: “I don't know.”
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@miles_brundage
Miles Brundage
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The Anthropic hearing is a disaster so far (for the government), unsurprisingly
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Samuel Roland
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@deanwball Defendants concede (as in their original brief) that Hegseth tweet, “Effective immediately, no contractor, supplier, or partner that does business with the United States military may conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic. . . . This decision is final.” holds n…
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@mikeisaac
Rat King
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Pentagon lawyer says Hegseth's post on social media saying “anthropic shall be designated as a supply chain risk” wasnt a legal declaration. (important b/c the official letter to Ant did not come until a week later) judge said she finds it “surprising”...perhaps not buying it
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@eggerdc
Andrew Egger
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Listening in on Anthropic v. DoD suit unfolding in CA federal court today, where Judge Lin is striking a skeptical tone toward the gov't: “It looks like DoW is punishing Anthropic for trying to bring public scrutiny to this contract dispute, which of course would be a violation
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@mikeisaac
Rat King
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Anthropic vs DOD hearing in Northern California district court today and the judge is already appearing fairly sympathetic to Anthropic: “It looks like an attempt to cripple anthropic...I have a lot of concern about that.”
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Samuel Roland
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Judge Lin starting with tentative thoughts, says Pentagon clearly has the ability to find a more permissive vendor, but the case is not about that. Case is, in her view, about the failure of tailoring here. Quotes “attempted corporate murder” @deanwball
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Samuel Roland
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AND THAT'S A WRAP! A very solid hearing for Anthropic. It's never wise to predict what a judge will do, but I will be very surprised if Judge Lin does not provide some interim relief for Anthropic. Whether that relief will be sufficient is the remaining question in my mind.